Bought a car with no logbook

needabed

I bought a car from a large dealership and they said they were waiting on the logbook as they had bought the car from an auction. They provided me a V62 form and reassured me this is normal and that they would post me the logbook once they get it. I did the V62 at the post office, but it can be up to 6 weeks to get the answer.

The road tax checker on gov.uk has it as taxed until 1 July 2022. So I assume I get some insurance done and then it's all fine to drive? Hopefully I get a response from the V62 or the logbook before the 1st. If not I guess I won't be able to drive after that until I get road tax renewed.

Anyone had a similar experience?

Grumpy_chap

How old is the car that you have purchased? 
Is it a nearly-new pre-reg where the Dealer cannot sell the car until they have owned it for a certain period, but sold it in advance anyway?

Whatever tax the car had is cancelled when the car is sold to you so, as the buyer, you need to pay for new tax from the date of collecting the car.  Often the Dealer would have done that as part of their service to you.  If they have not in this case and you cannot tax at the Post Office, then ask the Dealer to sort it.

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needabed said:

I bought a car from a large dealership and they said they were waiting on the logbook as they had bought the car from an auction. They provided me a V62 form and reassured me this is normal and that they would post me the logbook once they get it. I did the V62 at the post office, but it can be up to 6 weeks to get the answer.

I don't think so...

If the car was "in trade" then it wouldn't be taxed, as the tax is cancelled when it is registered "in trade" and it cannot be taxed unless registered to a keeper.

So to have tax it is currently registered to someone.(This could be a dealer)

The V62 will generate a V5 in the fullness of time, as DVLA write to the current keeper and give them some time (might be 28 days) to object to the change of owner- this stops me applying for a V5 in a false name for the chap over the road's Porsche, and selling it while he is out.

To tax it, the registered keeper has to change to you. Otherwise, if you succeed in paying for the tax (you shouldn't be able to as you need the current V5 number, and if you had it you could have changed keeper, taxed it and sorted everything) it will be in the name of the current keeper, and when the new V5 goes through they will get a refund.

I don't know what you can do, it can't be a unique situation, you may even have to keep the car off the road until it is registered to you and you can tax it.

Herzlos

For future reference; don't buy a car with no log book.Even cars at auctions have them. 

Basically you can't tax the car until you get the V5, which will take 5 weeks unless the previous owner objects. If the previous owner lost the car due to a repossession you're stuffed. 

iwb100

Tax is no longer transferable. So your car is untaxed. You can’t drive it until you can tax it. That’s the bottom line. If you drive it now you won’t be insured because it’s not taxed appropriately. 

DB1904

iwb100 said:

Tax is no longer transferable. So your car is untaxed. You can’t drive it until you can tax it. That’s the bottom line. If you drive it now you won’t be insured because it’s not taxed appropriately. 

That is simply untrue. 

shiraz99

Herzlos said:

For future reference; don't buy a car with no log book. Even cars at auctions have them. 

Basically you can't tax the car until you get the V5, which will take 5 weeks unless the previous owner objects. If the previous owner lost the car due to a repossession you're stuffed. 

It's very common they don't.

iwb100

DB1904 said:

iwb100 said:

Tax is no longer transferable. So your car is untaxed. You can’t drive it until you can tax it. That’s the bottom line. If you drive it now you won’t be insured because it’s not taxed appropriately. 

That is simply untrue. 

Fair point. It may be true depending upon the conditions of insurance the OPs insurer have. 

Car_54

iwb100 said:

DB1904 said:

iwb100 said:

Tax is no longer transferable. So your car is untaxed. You can’t drive it until you can tax it. That’s the bottom line. If you drive it now you won’t be insured because it’s not taxed appropriately. 

That is simply untrue. 

Fair point. It may be true depending upon the conditions of insurance the OPs insurer have. 

No, it may not.

iwb100

Car_54 said:

iwb100 said:

DB1904 said:

iwb100 said:

Tax is no longer transferable. So your car is untaxed. You can’t drive it until you can tax it. That’s the bottom line. If you drive it now you won’t be insured because it’s not taxed appropriately. 

That is simply untrue. 

Fair point. It may be true depending upon the conditions of insurance the OPs insurer have. 

No, it may not.

Some insurers have appropriately taxed vehicle as a condition of insurance. Or used to,

Car_54

iwb100 said:

Car_54 said:

iwb100 said:

DB1904 said:

iwb100 said:

Tax is no longer transferable. So your car is untaxed. You can’t drive it until you can tax it. That’s the bottom line. If you drive it now you won’t be insured because it’s not taxed appropriately. 

That is simply untrue. 

Fair point. It may be true depending upon the conditions of insurance the OPs insurer have. 

No, it may not.

Some insurers have appropriately taxed vehicle as a condition of insurance. Or used to,

Yes, but if they want to cancel the policy they have to tell you, so there is no question of committing an offence.