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Car parked over my drive, clipped it, who is liable?
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Sorry if I've missed it but is it your hedge, your neighbour's or the council's? Which ever it is someone is responsible for keeping it trimmed. If it's not yours but it's over your drive you are still within your rights to trim it within reason.
Our road has a hedge between the pavement and road, as well as some very large trees. I have notified the council today that the hedges need to be trimmed as I can't see in either direction when exiting my drive (FYI - I always back in). Now I could trim the council hedge and have done so previous years but portions of it pop up a good foot higher in a couple of weeks so it's an ongoing task.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on Debt Free Wannabe, Old Style Money Saving and Pensions boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
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Highway Code Rule 201:TheJP said:
That's a pretty wide accusation to throw out, why would i want to intentionally hit a car? If you have read my other posts you can see I've accepted responsibility. I can understand why its hard to visualise the drive but the way the car was parked and the angle of my drive and with the bush meant it was hard to see as i was reversing. Yes a bit of lack of concentration due to reversing out of the drive hundreds of times and not expecting a car parked in that way. Lesson learned.billy2shots said:Can we all move on from the hedge please.
The hedge is just deflection to justify hitting someone's car.
Unless the op had to drive through the hedge making it act like a big theatre curtain slowly peeling back to reveal what's on the other side, the the hedge is irrelevant.
The 50% blocking of drive is another red herring. The OP obviously had enough room to get his car out or they wouldn't have attempted to. The only alternative to that is they knew they couldn't get out and crashed on purpose.
The OP ran out of skill or luck and caused damage to someone's property.
Blocked driveways and hedges are being used to offset responsibility which is getting more common in today's world.
Ive moved on.
"Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can."0 -
It applies in any special enforcement area. Any council inside or outside London which has civil parking enforcement can designate itself as a special enforcement area.
Thanks for that (and to sheramber at 12:41 yesterday). I didn’t read to the end of Schedule 10. This is rule number one when trying to interpret statutes. Rule number 2 reads "see rule number 1".
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Its a cul-de-sac not a main road.[Deleted User] said:
Highway Code Rule 201:TheJP said:
That's a pretty wide accusation to throw out, why would i want to intentionally hit a car? If you have read my other posts you can see I've accepted responsibility. I can understand why its hard to visualise the drive but the way the car was parked and the angle of my drive and with the bush meant it was hard to see as i was reversing. Yes a bit of lack of concentration due to reversing out of the drive hundreds of times and not expecting a car parked in that way. Lesson learned.billy2shots said:Can we all move on from the hedge please.
The hedge is just deflection to justify hitting someone's car.
Unless the op had to drive through the hedge making it act like a big theatre curtain slowly peeling back to reveal what's on the other side, the the hedge is irrelevant.
The 50% blocking of drive is another red herring. The OP obviously had enough room to get his car out or they wouldn't have attempted to. The only alternative to that is they knew they couldn't get out and crashed on purpose.
The OP ran out of skill or luck and caused damage to someone's property.
Blocked driveways and hedges are being used to offset responsibility which is getting more common in today's world.
Ive moved on.
"Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can."0 -
The relevant part is the second sentence. "When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can."TheJP said:
Its a cul-de-sac not a main road.[Deleted User] said:
Highway Code Rule 201:TheJP said:
That's a pretty wide accusation to throw out, why would i want to intentionally hit a car? If you have read my other posts you can see I've accepted responsibility. I can understand why its hard to visualise the drive but the way the car was parked and the angle of my drive and with the bush meant it was hard to see as i was reversing. Yes a bit of lack of concentration due to reversing out of the drive hundreds of times and not expecting a car parked in that way. Lesson learned.billy2shots said:Can we all move on from the hedge please.
The hedge is just deflection to justify hitting someone's car.
Unless the op had to drive through the hedge making it act like a big theatre curtain slowly peeling back to reveal what's on the other side, the the hedge is irrelevant.
The 50% blocking of drive is another red herring. The OP obviously had enough room to get his car out or they wouldn't have attempted to. The only alternative to that is they knew they couldn't get out and crashed on purpose.
The OP ran out of skill or luck and caused damage to someone's property.
Blocked driveways and hedges are being used to offset responsibility which is getting more common in today's world.
Ive moved on.
"Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can."2 -
I rather suspect it's more main road than your drive. The point is to never reverse from a minor road on to a major roadTheJP said:
Its a cul-de-sac not a main road.Car_54 said:
Highway Code Rule 201:TheJP said:
That's a pretty wide accusation to throw out, why would i want to intentionally hit a car? If you have read my other posts you can see I've accepted responsibility. I can understand why its hard to visualise the drive but the way the car was parked and the angle of my drive and with the bush meant it was hard to see as i was reversing. Yes a bit of lack of concentration due to reversing out of the drive hundreds of times and not expecting a car parked in that way. Lesson learned.billy2shots said:Can we all move on from the hedge please.
The hedge is just deflection to justify hitting someone's car.
Unless the op had to drive through the hedge making it act like a big theatre curtain slowly peeling back to reveal what's on the other side, the the hedge is irrelevant.
The 50% blocking of drive is another red herring. The OP obviously had enough room to get his car out or they wouldn't have attempted to. The only alternative to that is they knew they couldn't get out and crashed on purpose.
The OP ran out of skill or luck and caused damage to someone's property.
Blocked driveways and hedges are being used to offset responsibility which is getting more common in today's world.
Ive moved on.
"Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can."0 -
So what you are saying is no one in the UK can reverse out of their drive.[Deleted User] said:
The relevant part is the second sentence. "When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can."TheJP said:
Its a cul-de-sac not a main road.[Deleted User] said:
Highway Code Rule 201:TheJP said:
That's a pretty wide accusation to throw out, why would i want to intentionally hit a car? If you have read my other posts you can see I've accepted responsibility. I can understand why its hard to visualise the drive but the way the car was parked and the angle of my drive and with the bush meant it was hard to see as i was reversing. Yes a bit of lack of concentration due to reversing out of the drive hundreds of times and not expecting a car parked in that way. Lesson learned.billy2shots said:Can we all move on from the hedge please.
The hedge is just deflection to justify hitting someone's car.
Unless the op had to drive through the hedge making it act like a big theatre curtain slowly peeling back to reveal what's on the other side, the the hedge is irrelevant.
The 50% blocking of drive is another red herring. The OP obviously had enough room to get his car out or they wouldn't have attempted to. The only alternative to that is they knew they couldn't get out and crashed on purpose.
The OP ran out of skill or luck and caused damage to someone's property.
Blocked driveways and hedges are being used to offset responsibility which is getting more common in today's world.
Ive moved on.
"Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can."0 -
It’s a cul-de-sac within a minor road in which that road is in a minor road. I know what a main road is and what you shouldn’t reverse out into.ontheroad1970 said:
I rather suspect it's more main road than your drive. The point is to never reverse from a minor road on to a major roadTheJP said:
Its a cul-de-sac not a main road.Car_54 said:
Highway Code Rule 201:TheJP said:
That's a pretty wide accusation to throw out, why would i want to intentionally hit a car? If you have read my other posts you can see I've accepted responsibility. I can understand why its hard to visualise the drive but the way the car was parked and the angle of my drive and with the bush meant it was hard to see as i was reversing. Yes a bit of lack of concentration due to reversing out of the drive hundreds of times and not expecting a car parked in that way. Lesson learned.billy2shots said:Can we all move on from the hedge please.
The hedge is just deflection to justify hitting someone's car.
Unless the op had to drive through the hedge making it act like a big theatre curtain slowly peeling back to reveal what's on the other side, the the hedge is irrelevant.
The 50% blocking of drive is another red herring. The OP obviously had enough room to get his car out or they wouldn't have attempted to. The only alternative to that is they knew they couldn't get out and crashed on purpose.
The OP ran out of skill or luck and caused damage to someone's property.
Blocked driveways and hedges are being used to offset responsibility which is getting more common in today's world.
Ive moved on.
"Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can."0 -
The point is that you should not reverse into a more major thoroughfare than the one you come from. So why do you reverse out on to the road from your drive when the HC clearly states that you should not do so? If you had driven forwards out, I doubt the incident would have occurred, you would have had better visibility. This is the reason I always reverse into parking bays. Visibility is alway better when driving forwards.TheJP said:
It’s a cul-de-sac within a minor road in which that road is in a minor road. I know what a main road is and what you shouldn’t reverse out into.ontheroad1970 said:
I rather suspect it's more main road than your drive. The point is to never reverse from a minor road on to a major roadTheJP said:
Its a cul-de-sac not a main road.Car_54 said:
Highway Code Rule 201:TheJP said:
That's a pretty wide accusation to throw out, why would i want to intentionally hit a car? If you have read my other posts you can see I've accepted responsibility. I can understand why its hard to visualise the drive but the way the car was parked and the angle of my drive and with the bush meant it was hard to see as i was reversing. Yes a bit of lack of concentration due to reversing out of the drive hundreds of times and not expecting a car parked in that way. Lesson learned.billy2shots said:Can we all move on from the hedge please.
The hedge is just deflection to justify hitting someone's car.
Unless the op had to drive through the hedge making it act like a big theatre curtain slowly peeling back to reveal what's on the other side, the the hedge is irrelevant.
The 50% blocking of drive is another red herring. The OP obviously had enough room to get his car out or they wouldn't have attempted to. The only alternative to that is they knew they couldn't get out and crashed on purpose.
The OP ran out of skill or luck and caused damage to someone's property.
Blocked driveways and hedges are being used to offset responsibility which is getting more common in today's world.
Ive moved on.
"Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can."2 -
But no "MUST NOT"[Deleted User] said:
The relevant part is the second sentence. "When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can."TheJP said:
Its a cul-de-sac not a main road.[Deleted User] said:
Highway Code Rule 201:TheJP said:
That's a pretty wide accusation to throw out, why would i want to intentionally hit a car? If you have read my other posts you can see I've accepted responsibility. I can understand why its hard to visualise the drive but the way the car was parked and the angle of my drive and with the bush meant it was hard to see as i was reversing. Yes a bit of lack of concentration due to reversing out of the drive hundreds of times and not expecting a car parked in that way. Lesson learned.billy2shots said:Can we all move on from the hedge please.
The hedge is just deflection to justify hitting someone's car.
Unless the op had to drive through the hedge making it act like a big theatre curtain slowly peeling back to reveal what's on the other side, the the hedge is irrelevant.
The 50% blocking of drive is another red herring. The OP obviously had enough room to get his car out or they wouldn't have attempted to. The only alternative to that is they knew they couldn't get out and crashed on purpose.
The OP ran out of skill or luck and caused damage to someone's property.
Blocked driveways and hedges are being used to offset responsibility which is getting more common in today's world.
Ive moved on.
"Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can."Life in the slow lane0
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