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  • deannagone
    deannagone Posts: 1,114 Forumite
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    edited 19 June 2022 at 2:23AM
    Send them pictures of the dog dirt if you an upstairs window you can take pictures of it from (saves you going into the area).  It should be cleaned up regularly.  I have dogs and clean it up several times a day and clean up with weak bleach solution to stop any flies if there's anything left behind.  Believe it or not, I have had several comments on how clean I keep it, people do notice.  I also call the dogs in at the first sign of any mutual doggy convo (barking).  For me its just appreciating how the negative sides of having dogs affect people around you.  
  • Rayray07
    Rayray07 Posts: 27 Forumite
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    sidneyvic said:
    Sorry to say this but it sounds like your relationship with you neighbour is irreparably damaged. You dont say what has caused your neighbour to put this fence up or call you nasty names. I suspect it is the result of earlier trivial complaints and it has now escalated, so much so the neighbour has gone to considerable effort and expense to separate themselves from you. It is never going to get any better unless you put it to bed, the neighbour knows you are doing your best to get them thrown out of their home and they are never going to love you. You can wage your war against them and let it consume your life or you can just ignore. If its that bad, paint your side of the fence and if you still feel the same way, move. 
    Can I ask, do you consider this to be possibly my own fault? 

    I can’t paint “my side” of the fence as it is the neighbours, even though there shouldn’t even be a fence. I seemingly have no right to touch it?

    Yes you are correct probably moving is the best option but if the people who could help actually did soo wouldn’t need to leave my family home. 
  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,911 Forumite
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    edited 19 June 2022 at 10:28AM
    Rayray07 said:
    sidneyvic said:
    Sorry to say this but it sounds like your relationship with you neighbour is irreparably damaged. You dont say what has caused your neighbour to put this fence up or call you nasty names. I suspect it is the result of earlier trivial complaints and it has now escalated, so much so the neighbour has gone to considerable effort and expense to separate themselves from you. It is never going to get any better unless you put it to bed, the neighbour knows you are doing your best to get them thrown out of their home and they are never going to love you. You can wage your war against them and let it consume your life or you can just ignore. If its that bad, paint your side of the fence and if you still feel the same way, move. 
    Can I ask, do you consider this to be possibly my own fault? 

    I can’t paint “my side” of the fence as it is the neighbours, even though there shouldn’t even be a fence. I seemingly have no right to touch it?

    Yes you are correct probably moving is the best option but if the people who could help actually did soo wouldn’t need to leave my family home. 
    These things escalate, as the relationship deteriorates. You are reacting to your neighbours, and they are reacting to you. It looks like you are making each other miserable. After a while, it becomes pointless to try to attribute blame. 

    There’s nothing the landlord can do, at the moment, as he has no grounds for evicting the tenants. 

    You say that you can’t paint the fence, but have you even asked?

     Is the dog dirt on your side of the fence? Yes, I know that the fence should not be there, but it’s been put up to try to reduce the scope for argument. So, is the dog confined to the other half?
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Rayray07
    Rayray07 Posts: 27 Forumite
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    GDB2222 said:
    Rayray07 said:
    sidneyvic said:
    Sorry to say this but it sounds like your relationship with you neighbour is irreparably damaged. You dont say what has caused your neighbour to put this fence up or call you nasty names. I suspect it is the result of earlier trivial complaints and it has now escalated, so much so the neighbour has gone to considerable effort and expense to separate themselves from you. It is never going to get any better unless you put it to bed, the neighbour knows you are doing your best to get them thrown out of their home and they are never going to love you. You can wage your war against them and let it consume your life or you can just ignore. If its that bad, paint your side of the fence and if you still feel the same way, move. 
    Can I ask, do you consider this to be possibly my own fault? 

    I can’t paint “my side” of the fence as it is the neighbours, even though there shouldn’t even be a fence. I seemingly have no right to touch it?

    Yes you are correct probably moving is the best option but if the people who could help actually did soo wouldn’t need to leave my family home. 
    These things escalate, as the relationship deteriorates. You are reacting to your neighbours, and they are reacting to you. It looks like you are making each other miserable. After a while, it becomes pointless to try to attribute blame. 

    There’s nothing the landlord can do, at the moment, as he has no grounds for evicting the tenants. 

    You say that you can’t paint the fence, but have you even asked?

     Is the dog dirt on your side of the fence? Yes, I know that the fence should not be there, but it’s been put up to try to reduce the scope for argument. So, is the dog confined to the other half?
    I haven’t asked about the fence I feel intimidated, I have had a fair bit of verbal abuse so unable to speak to the neighbour.

    The dog also isn’t confined to the fenced area. The neighbour doesn’t seem to grasp “shared” unfortunately. 
  • diystarter7
    diystarter7 Posts: 5,202 Forumite
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    OP
    Move, move and move. 
    You will say no and no as will others.
    We should never give into bullies but at times, health is wealth.

    I can imagine you retuning from work and most people feel thank the lord I'm back home but in your case you will feel miserable, fearful/ill etc etc.

    What made them stick up the fence, any consultations or exchange of words before that?

    You will do what you need to and not easy to move but some people can be nasty and only need a little thing to trigger that.
  • diystarter7
    diystarter7 Posts: 5,202 Forumite
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    If the landlords not bothered its a problem, the tenants answer to their landlord. Get back to them explaining its a communal garden and their responsibility to manage their tenants. Also try the asb officer again.
    Do you really think the abuse will die down once the LL gets on the case? rolleyes.
  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    If the landlords not bothered its a problem, the tenants answer to their landlord. Get back to them explaining its a communal garden and their responsibility to manage their tenants. Also try the asb officer again.
    Do you really think the abuse will die down once the LL gets on the case? rolleyes.
    I think the landlord refusing to get involved will encourage the tenant to continue to dictate what happens. rolleyes.

  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    Rayray07 said:
    GDB2222 said:
    Rayray07 said:
    sidneyvic said:
    Sorry to say this but it sounds like your relationship with you neighbour is irreparably damaged. You dont say what has caused your neighbour to put this fence up or call you nasty names. I suspect it is the result of earlier trivial complaints and it has now escalated, so much so the neighbour has gone to considerable effort and expense to separate themselves from you. It is never going to get any better unless you put it to bed, the neighbour knows you are doing your best to get them thrown out of their home and they are never going to love you. You can wage your war against them and let it consume your life or you can just ignore. If its that bad, paint your side of the fence and if you still feel the same way, move. 
    Can I ask, do you consider this to be possibly my own fault? 

    I can’t paint “my side” of the fence as it is the neighbours, even though there shouldn’t even be a fence. I seemingly have no right to touch it?

    Yes you are correct probably moving is the best option but if the people who could help actually did soo wouldn’t need to leave my family home. 
    These things escalate, as the relationship deteriorates. You are reacting to your neighbours, and they are reacting to you. It looks like you are making each other miserable. After a while, it becomes pointless to try to attribute blame. 

    There’s nothing the landlord can do, at the moment, as he has no grounds for evicting the tenants. 

    You say that you can’t paint the fence, but have you even asked?

     Is the dog dirt on your side of the fence? Yes, I know that the fence should not be there, but it’s been put up to try to reduce the scope for argument. So, is the dog confined to the other half?


    The dog also isn’t confined to the fenced area. The neighbour doesn’t seem to grasp “shared” unfortunately. 
    Put your own fence up, do as they have done, claim the unfenced part of the garden for yourself.

  • diystarter7
    diystarter7 Posts: 5,202 Forumite
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    If the landlords not bothered its a problem, the tenants answer to their landlord. Get back to them explaining its a communal garden and their responsibility to manage their tenants. Also try the asb officer again.
    Do you really think the abuse will die down once the LL gets on the case? rolleyes.
    I think the landlord refusing to get involved will encourage the tenant to continue to dictate what happens. rolleyes.

    Not sure why you posted that in response to what I said. Therefore I will ask you again, one last try. How will telling the LL stop the abuse?
  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    If the landlords not bothered its a problem, the tenants answer to their landlord. Get back to them explaining its a communal garden and their responsibility to manage their tenants. Also try the asb officer again.
    Do you really think the abuse will die down once the LL gets on the case? rolleyes.
    I think the landlord refusing to get involved will encourage the tenant to continue to dictate what happens. rolleyes.

    Not sure why you posted that in response to what I said. Therefore I will ask you again, one last try. How will telling the LL stop the abuse?

    Not sure why you've struggled to understand the reason for my reply or the need to question my previous post. Thankfully that was your one last try so no need to explain further. rolleyes.
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