Energy price cap to rise to £2,800 in October: OFGEM Chief Exec

QrizB

Another one for the ignore list, I see.

QrizB

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Am I just being daft?  There doesn't appear to be any way to choose any of the tariffs that come up online - again, would have to phone or e-mail.

It's just a list of tariffs, not a switching tool.

As stated in the post you quote:

To change to tracker tariff need to be an existing customer,  send email or contact via social media, possible by phone

Mstty

I do have a hunch as this media hyped ofgem announcement of £2800 is an estimate that the real figure will be closer to £2600.

And let's face it a hunch is as good as anything else being touted on this board and it will have the added benefit of whatever government help is announced today and Ofgem looking as Rosey as they can before this winter.

agentcain

chris1973 said:

Benny2020 said:

We have massive amounts of oil and gas reserves here but local councils will not allow drilling/extraction.

Ironically its these deluded individuals bleating and banging their drums, who are forcing the shortfall in Gas to now be imported from the U.S or Qatar in the form of LNG. Marine cargo and tanker traffic has never been so high, with all of the extra traffic transporting Gas, Oh and Electric Car Batteries around the world........

LNG of course requires huge amounts of Electricity to convert from Gas to Liquid at one side and then more energy to convert it back from Liquid to Gas at our side. Not to mention being transported in ancient diesel tankers with engines in rows the length of a football field all burning a sulphur laden diesel sludge oil - no DPF's or pollution controls on the smoke stacks of these vessels!.

Their 'philosophy' of saving the world is actually creating a bigger carbon footprint than just producing it ourselves - they may see themselves as some kind of hero's, when in fact they are just clueless amateurs creating a bigger problem. The sooner they are put into homes for the terminally bewildered the better.

Its time, we stopped allowing these individuals, and obnoxious gobby teenagers from Sweden to dictate our energy policies.

LNG tankers also use boil-off gas on their turbines. They are dual fuel. What type of fuel they use depends on port rules, the pricing of gas/oil, the length and condition of journey, onboard technologies (if they have reliquefication for example).
What you are arguing is a complex engineering problem where you have to provide an optimal technoeconomical solution. 

Since 2020, there's the IMO 2020 which forces low-sulphur heavy oil on tankers. https://www.imo.org/en/MediaCentre/HotTopics/Pages/Sulphur-2020.aspx
So your argument on "sulphur laden diesel sludge oil" is incorrect. 

Not all tankers have DPF filters, some of them do. The tankers that still use the old HFO with 3.5% sulphur will be equipped with scrubbers to comply with IMO 2020. In any case, it is up to the authorities to check if any vehicle complies with requirements. The same authorities that ban private diesel vehicles but allow taxis, coaches and council cars just fine. If you're looking for the real perpetrator, look towards the authorities not the technologies.

The "carbon footprint" argument is also doubtful. CO2 is a greenhouse gas and it might be rising but it is doubtful if human activity is to fully blame for it and how much of it is considered bad since CO2 is a great food source for plants. 

At the end of the day, it is our lifestyle that demands these engineering solutions. A lot of things come from oil and for better or for worse, plastics have amazing properties, much better than the materials they tend to replace. HFO comes from distillation of petroleum, its not like we make it on purpose just for the tankers. Petroleum fractions are used in all different applications, from the fuel of your car to the road that allows your food to reach your table. We are doing the smart, economical and environmentally friendlier option of using as many byproducts of a process as we can. Uncontrolled consumerism is the real issue, which is also affecting the energy market, together with any kind of lifestyle. 

I do however agree on your statement regarding increased cargo transport, one of the reasons behind that and the status of those "obnoxious gobby teenagers from Sweden". Woke era.

bristolleedsfan

Mstty said:

I do have a hunch as this media hyped ofgem announcement of £2800 is an estimate that the real figure will be closer to £2600.

E.ON Chief has said it could be closer to £3000

Undisputedtruth

Ultrasonic said:

That's not true. Even with the current standing charges there is a very clear incentive for customers to use less energy - both financial and environmental. Yes if the standing charges were lower and the unit prices were higher you could argue that than financial incentives would be slightly greater, but they're far from inconsequential currently.

I think outlawing standing charges would make zero sense, both for the actual fixed costs to suppliers, and for the likes of green levies and covering costs of SOLR protection.

By abolishing standing charges, it means unit cost more. By focussing on energy saving, you can save more money on your electricity bill. You can't energy save on standing charges by being energy efficient. The green levies and SOLR protection ought to be covered through general taxation. It is scandalous that people on low incomes have to pay for green levies and SOLR protection.