We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. See the Community Noticeboard for more info. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Grants for Efficient Storage Heaters

Options
2»

Comments

  • BUFF
    BUFF Posts: 2,185 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 25 May 2022 at 9:11PM
    Chrysalis said:
    I think when it comes to heat retention, the biggest issue in low end housing is probably old rotten single glazed windows.  The draft in my property is insane, yet every scheme I have looked at out of curiosity doesnt offer new double glazed windows, instead only much less efficient things.  Is this down to them deliberately trying to avoid the expensive stuff?
    draughtproofing can be cheap & should have a fairly short payback period. Double glazing rarely pays for itself in pure economic terms (it will improve comfort levels though) & if it does it's usually in the tens of years.
    The potential problem with effective draughtproofing in older properties can be condensation due to less ventilation ...
  • Swipe
    Swipe Posts: 5,606 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Gerry1 said:
    Swipe said:
    I keep getting phone calls from people telling me I can get grants for storage heaters but every time I look it up I only see the ECO scheme that you have to be on benefits to qualify and see nothing mentioned about storage heaters. I'm guessing they are scam callers.
    Register your numbers with the Telephone Preference Service and after 28 days you'll be certain that they're scams !
    Already registered Gerry
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,059 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Rampant Recycler
     3kW of electricity going in, is going to be 3kW of heat coming out minus a tiny amount of say, light because the element is glowing. .

    '3kW of electricity going in, is going to be 3kW of heat coming out,' - period!

    Doesn't matter if a light is glowing or a fan turning etc!  According to Albert Einstein!




  • Mstty
    Mstty Posts: 4,209 Forumite
    1,000 Posts First Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 26 May 2022 at 7:03AM
    Cardew said:
     3kW of electricity going in, is going to be 3kW of heat coming out minus a tiny amount of say, light because the element is glowing. .

    '3kW of electricity going in, is going to be 3kW of heat coming out,' - period!

    Doesn't matter if a light is glowing or a fan turning etc!  According to Albert Einstein!




    1kwH energy goes in the ASHP and more kWh interns of heat comes out?
  • Reed_Richards
    Reed_Richards Posts: 5,274 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Mstty said:
    Cardew said:
     3kW of electricity going in, is going to be 3kW of heat coming out minus a tiny amount of say, light because the element is glowing. .

    '3kW of electricity going in, is going to be 3kW of heat coming out,' - period!

    Doesn't matter if a light is glowing or a fan turning etc!  According to Albert Einstein!




    1kwH energy goes in the ASHP and more kWh interns of heat comes out?
    "interns" = "in terms" with auto-correct gone wrong???

    A heat pump is a very specific device for moving heat from one place to another.  Heat pumping is not achieved accidentally by other electrical devices.

    Electrical energy can be converted into other forms of energy; heat (as in a storage heater), light (as in a bulb), motion (as in an electric car), chemical (as in a battery), probably others I cannot think of right now.  But light gets absorbed and ultimately gives rise to heat, motion causes friction which creates heat or moves the air around but air movement ultimately heats the air.  An electric car in motion has kinetic energy but by the time it has returned home and stopped and all the air it disturbed has settled down then all the electrical energy used by the car will have been converted to heat.          
    Reed
  • Mstty
    Mstty Posts: 4,209 Forumite
    1,000 Posts First Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    Great spell check police🤣🤣🤣 
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,059 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Rampant Recycler
    Mstty said:
    Cardew said:
     3kW of electricity going in, is going to be 3kW of heat coming out minus a tiny amount of say, light because the element is glowing. .

    '3kW of electricity going in, is going to be 3kW of heat coming out,' - period!

    Doesn't matter if a light is glowing or a fan turning etc!  According to Albert Einstein!




    1kwH energy goes in the ASHP and more kWh interns of heat comes out?

    As said above, a heat pump is simply a device to transfer the heat contained in the air/ground/water from outside the house, into the house.

    The principle is no different to, say, using a solar panel to transfer the heat of the sun into hot water(thermal solar) or electricity.

    Air conditioning does exactly the opposite. It uses electricity to remove heat from inside the house.





Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.8K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.8K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 598.7K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.8K Life & Family
  • 257.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.