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saajan_12 said:Eh, do you mean if the LL gave 3 months notice instead of the minimum 2? Whats wrong with that?
I'm sure this wasn't allowed any more though? Our LA years ago used to serve an S21 with the 12 month contract. I thought this practice had been stopped.
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It was served last month so was three months notice they always send it early. Normally I sign another 12 months.0
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I'd sit tight. There's absolutely nothing they can do before the S21 expires anyway.Up to you. If you want peace of mind, tell them that you're buying a house, you're not leaving and that you'll give 1 months notice when you've exchanged. Tell them not to contact you and you'll wait for the court date as necessary.Anything else, they're harrassing you.How long do you think you'll need to stick it out for?1
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newsgroupmonkey_ said:saajan_12 said:Eh, do you mean if the LL gave 3 months notice instead of the minimum 2? Whats wrong with that?
I'm sure this wasn't allowed any more though? Our LA years ago used to serve an S21 with the 12 month contract. I thought this practice had been stopped.
However after the 4 months, you can serve the notice whenever and giving the tenant more than the 2 months minimum is a good thing, not bad.
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newsgroupmonkey_ said:I'd sit tight. There's absolutely nothing they can do before the S21 expires anyway.Up to you. If you want peace of mind, tell them that you're buying a house, you're not leaving and that you'll give 1 months notice when you've exchanged. Tell them not to contact you and you'll wait for the court date as necessary.Anything else, they're harrassing you.How long do you think you'll need to stick it out for?0
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the S21.1) It sounds like it is valid, though there is a 87 Q questionaire here to check. Lots of reasons it may be invalid:S21 checklist (Is a S21 valid?)2) but even assuming it is valid, it does not end the tenancy. When the S21 expires, then the landord has the option of applying to a court to end the tenancy. He (the LL) cannot end the tenancy himself. Only a court can (or you). So you do not have to leave when the S21 expires.Your notice3) assuming you leave on or before the final day of your fixed term, you do not need to serve any notice. That's what 'fixed term' means! It's a .... fixed period of time (12 months) and at the end of that time, the tenancy ends. Assuming of course that you leave. Though if you stay, a periodic (rolling) tenancy starts. See 4...4) once you create a periodic tenancy, you'll have a Statutory Periodic Tenancy (unless your tenancy agreement says a contractual periodic will arise, but that seems unlikely since you say there is nothing about notice in the TA).5) Under a SPT you must serve 1 full tenancy period notice.This is explained in detail in the link
Post 4: Ending/renewing an AST:6) do not serve notice till you have Exchanged Contracts on your purchase. If you serve notice and then fail to leave (eg your purchase is delayed or falls through) you can be charged double rent.
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canaldumidi said:the S21.1) It sounds like it is valid, though there is a 87 Q questionaire here to check. Lots of reasons it may be invalid:S21 checklist (Is a S21 valid?)2) but even assuming it is valid, it does not end the tenancy. When the S21 expires, then the landord has the option of applying to a court to end the tenancy. He (the LL) cannot end the tenancy himself. Only a court can (or you). So you do not have to leave when the S21 expires.Your notice3) assuming you leave on or before the final day of your fixed term, you do not need to serve any notice. That's what 'fixed term' means! It's a .... fixed period of time (12 months) and at the end of that time, the tenancy ends. Assuming of course that you leave. Though if you stay, a periodic (rolling) tenancy starts. See 4...4) once you create a periodic tenancy, you'll have a Statutory Periodic Tenancy (unless your tenancy agreement says a contractual periodic will arise, but that seems unlikely since you say there is nothing about notice in the TA).5) Under a SPT you must serve 1 full tenancy period notice.This is explained in detail in the link
Post 4: Ending/renewing an AST:6) do not serve notice till you have Exchanged Contracts on your purchase. If you serve notice and then fail to leave (eg your purchase is delayed or falls through) you can be charged double rent.I’m worried if the sale goes wrong and I need to rent again they will give me a bad reference. I will definitely wait for exchange.0 -
boxer234 said:canaldumidi said:the S21.1) It sounds like it is valid, though there is a 87 Q questionaire here to check. Lots of reasons it may be invalid:S21 checklist (Is a S21 valid?)2) but even assuming it is valid, it does not end the tenancy. When the S21 expires, then the landord has the option of applying to a court to end the tenancy. He (the LL) cannot end the tenancy himself. Only a court can (or you). So you do not have to leave when the S21 expires.Your notice3) assuming you leave on or before the final day of your fixed term, you do not need to serve any notice. That's what 'fixed term' means! It's a .... fixed period of time (12 months) and at the end of that time, the tenancy ends. Assuming of course that you leave. Though if you stay, a periodic (rolling) tenancy starts. See 4...4) once you create a periodic tenancy, you'll have a Statutory Periodic Tenancy (unless your tenancy agreement says a contractual periodic will arise, but that seems unlikely since you say there is nothing about notice in the TA).5) Under a SPT you must serve 1 full tenancy period notice.This is explained in detail in the link
Post 4: Ending/renewing an AST:6) do not serve notice till you have Exchanged Contracts on your purchase. If you serve notice and then fail to leave (eg your purchase is delayed or falls through) you can be charged double rent.I’m worried if the sale goes wrong and I need to rent again they will give me a bad reference. I will definitely wait for exchange.Well they can list the property.No way to prevent that. But you don't have to allow anyone access to view it, so the LL/agent would have loads of disgruntled applicants........Note there is a difference between informally telling the LL your plans, and serving formal notice, with a designated tenancy end date. It's certainly helpful, and polite, to let a LL know what you plan, but be careful with your wording not to specify an end date. Keeping a LL informed informally is likely to help with a future reference.2 -
canaldumidi said:boxer234 said:canaldumidi said:the S21.1) It sounds like it is valid, though there is a 87 Q questionaire here to check. Lots of reasons it may be invalid:S21 checklist (Is a S21 valid?)2) but even assuming it is valid, it does not end the tenancy. When the S21 expires, then the landord has the option of applying to a court to end the tenancy. He (the LL) cannot end the tenancy himself. Only a court can (or you). So you do not have to leave when the S21 expires.Your notice3) assuming you leave on or before the final day of your fixed term, you do not need to serve any notice. That's what 'fixed term' means! It's a .... fixed period of time (12 months) and at the end of that time, the tenancy ends. Assuming of course that you leave. Though if you stay, a periodic (rolling) tenancy starts. See 4...4) once you create a periodic tenancy, you'll have a Statutory Periodic Tenancy (unless your tenancy agreement says a contractual periodic will arise, but that seems unlikely since you say there is nothing about notice in the TA).5) Under a SPT you must serve 1 full tenancy period notice.This is explained in detail in the link
Post 4: Ending/renewing an AST:6) do not serve notice till you have Exchanged Contracts on your purchase. If you serve notice and then fail to leave (eg your purchase is delayed or falls through) you can be charged double rent.I’m worried if the sale goes wrong and I need to rent again they will give me a bad reference. I will definitely wait for exchange.Well they can list the property.No way to prevent that. But you don't have to allow anyone access to view it, so the LL/agent would have loads of disgruntled applicants........Note there is a difference between informally telling the LL your plans, and serving formal notice, with a designated tenancy end date. It's certainly helpful, and polite, to let a LL know what you plan, but be careful with your wording not to specify an end date. Keeping a LL informed informally is likely to help with a future reference.They told me I needed to give two months when I queried this the tone changed and they said although I didn’t need to give notice they would re list. At this point I stopped engaging. Today I got a check out appointment.1
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