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Buying a toilet

Specifically close coupled variety, I know....exciting!!!

I am in the market for 2 new toilets. I don't want to spend a fortune so would like to keep within £400 for the pair. I also require one to be a short projection one for out cloakroom.

I have been looking at the Ceramica Tivoli and Milan as both easily suits my budget and aesthetics. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of independent reviews or advice in this area either. Are all toilets created equal??

I have heard or Armatige Shanks, but not Ceramica, Nuie, Rak, Ideal standard etc etc. Has anyone got some advice or real world experience?

I have included pics of the two I have initially picked, but am open to advice and suggestions 

many thanks once again 
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  • Slinky
    Slinky Posts: 11,562 Forumite
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    We've recently bought Rak Resort Comfort height toilets in preparation for our old age when getting off the loo could be harder on the knees. Toilet heights haven't changed for years in the main, although the population have grown taller. Ours are 5cm higher than a standard pan.

    We spent quite a bit of time chatting with the owner of the local bathroom shop who has many years experience. He recommended we go with Rak or Ideal Standard.  Our plumber recommended going with open back (as your pictures show) as closed back ones when they are assembled, you hope that the pan has fully connected into the output pipe, but you can't really tell for sure. Open back is easier to check.
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  • knightstyle
    knightstyle Posts: 7,362 Forumite
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    I have bought and fitted several toilets over the years and usually buy a cheaper, not cheapest ones from local builders merchants. Latest was a month ago from Wickes who were selling stuff off, paid £95 for a good one with eco flush to use less water.  I would go round and have a look at their offers, the best deals are not on line, ex display, managers specials or discontinued.  We are lucky as several places selling them are close together about 1.5 miles away.
  • jennifernil
    jennifernil Posts: 5,812 Forumite
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    edited 21 May 2022 at 8:14PM
    sbywater said:
    Specifically close coupled variety, I know....exciting!!!

    I am in the market for 2 new toilets. I don't want to spend a fortune so would like to keep within £400 for the pair. I also require one to be a short projection one for out cloakroom.

    I have been looking at the Ceramica Tivoli and Milan as both easily suits my budget and aesthetics. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of independent reviews or advice in this area either. Are all toilets created equal??

    I have heard or Armatige Shanks, but not Ceramica, Nuie, Rak, Ideal standard etc etc. Has anyone got some advice or real world experience?

    I have included pics of the two I have initially picked, but am open to advice and suggestions 

    many thanks once again 
    Ideal Standard is a well known brand in UK, been around for ages, we have a toilet and basin from them in our 34 year old house, still look good.  Our daughter also had their stuff in her 3 bathrooms in her 2012 newbuild.

    I believe they are part of the same company as Armitage Shanks these days.

    Our daughter has refitted 2 bathrooms recently, and has used Ideal Standard toilets, we are in the middle of doing our en suite and have the same Ideal Standard back to wall toilet, and one of their inset basins.
  • BUFF
    BUFF Posts: 2,185 Forumite
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    Armitage Shanks is part of Ideal Standard these days.
    RAK are a large, well-established sanitaryware company from the Middle East.
    Nuie are part of Roxor, which is a smaller UK company with a mix of sourcing & manufacture.
    Not sure about Ceramica. There are lots of (usually Italian/Spanish) brands with ceramica in them but nothing to stop someone sourcing from somewhere else & sticking ceramica in the name..
  • badger09
    badger09 Posts: 11,771 Forumite
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    We’ve recently reinstated a toilet inside our attached garage. It’s in a tiny separate space, not in the middle of said garage😉. Plumber has fitted a cloakroom size VitrA back to wall toilet & small basin. Both seem decent quality but the toilet seat is flimsy & cheap looking (my fault as I just left choice to him). I’ll replace it with something more robust IDC. 
  • YBR
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    Would you consider a toilet with basin combo?
    The idea is that you flush the toilet with the water you washed your hands with last time - water saving.
    Duo Toilet Basin Combo Combined Toilet with Sink Tap Space Saving
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  • BUFF
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    edited 23 May 2022 at 10:45AM
    Big in Japan! (as Alphaville would sing) ;)
    Very common there.
  • YBR said:
    Would you consider a toilet with basin combo?
    The idea is that you flush the toilet with the water you washed your hands with last time - water saving.
    Duo Toilet Basin Combo Combined Toilet with Sink Tap Space Saving
    🤣🤣 Not sure the Mrs would be happy with this??
  • ashe
    ashe Posts: 1,578 Forumite
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    YBR said:
    Would you consider a toilet with basin combo?
    The idea is that you flush the toilet with the water you washed your hands with last time - water saving.
    Duo Toilet Basin Combo Combined Toilet with Sink Tap Space Saving
    Our plumber suggested this for our en suite, no thanks 😂 can imagine water splashing everywhere, nowhere for soap dispenser, not sure if it saves water because it must refill after a flush? 

    We've got 3 RAK toilets in our house and they're all very good with strong flushes and excellent quality seats 
  • Slinky
    Slinky Posts: 11,562 Forumite
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    Certainly wouldn't want one of those if that was the only place to attempt to clean teeth. As in all these things, they put a picture of a loo on a long empty wall, when in reality you're only likely to go for that sort of thing because you are extremely limited for space.
    Make £2026 in 2026
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    Total £217.32 10.7%

    Make £2025 in 2025  Total £2241.23/£2025 110.7%
    Prolific £1062.50, Octopoints £6.64, TCB £492.05, Tesco Clubcard challenges £89.90, Misc Sales £321, Airtime £70, Shopmium £53.06, Everup £106.08, Zopa CB £30, Misc survey £10

    Make £2024 in 2024 Total £1410/£2024 70%
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