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Private parking PCN - debt collection status in Northern Ireland

Hi,

I've read the newbies posts.

I didn't get a windscreen ticket but the PCN came through the post addressed to me (by name) to my home address.

I have since received a debt recovery letter from ZZPS.

I was little confused by the advice on newbies reference to NTK (notice to keeper) - if I am already named on the correspondence how should I respond, if at all??

Thanks
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  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,218 Forumite
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    edited 19 May 2022 at 6:13PM
    The fourth post on the NEWBIES thread tells you exactly how to deal with debt collectors letters.

    When you read the opening post of the NEWBIES thread, did you see this?...

    Who is the parking company?

  • oc75
    oc75 Posts: 20 Forumite
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    Sorry, the parking company is Parkmaven ltd. I ignored their original PCN (thought thats generally what the newbie posts were recommending) and have got a first debt collection letter from ZZPS  Ltd.

    I did the see post above re: scotland/NI.  It recommends complaining to store management if it is from a retail park. It was not from a retail park. It was for parking outside an apartment block.

    I was little confused by the advice on newbies reference to NTK (notice to keeper) - if I am already named on the correspondence how should I respond, if at all??
  • Trainerman
    Trainerman Posts: 1,329 Forumite
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    You are named as the keeper. They got that from DVLA. As the others have said, being addressed as the keeper is one thing, do not let on who was driving. 
    The pen is mightier than the sword ..... and I have many pens.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 42,851 Forumite
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    Send the blue text initial appeal template from the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, first post, with a final sentence to tell them there can be no keeper liability in NI, so not to bother you again, then, thereafter, ignore them.  That's the top and bottom of it.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • oc75
    oc75 Posts: 20 Forumite
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    Thank you Umkomaas  - do I send to Parkmaven or to ZZPS?
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 42,851 Forumite
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    oc75 said:
    Thank you Umkomaas  - do I send to Parkmaven or to ZZPS?
    Parkmaven.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • oc75
    oc75 Posts: 20 Forumite
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    Will do. I can't find an email address so will have to send it in the post. Hopefully that will work ok.

    Thanks again.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 147,832 Forumite
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    Why not just Google it and use the Consumer Council?  They know the score in NI:

    https://www.consumercouncil.org.uk/node/1054
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
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  • Why not just Google it and use the Consumer Council?  They know the score in NI:

    https://www.consumercouncil.org.uk/node/1054
    I've a friend NI who has just received a PCN from Smart Parking.

    Do the Consumer Council there use no keeper liability as a basis for squashing the charge?

    I saw that they've helped appeal loads of tickets but my friend is vulnerable and I don't want to risk her admitting being by the driver to the CC if they don't use the no keeper liability defence. 
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 147,832 Forumite
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    edited 20 May 2022 at 12:31AM
    They certainly do.  They know the law.

    Also, how can they say she was the driver if she doesn't even say that to the CC?  She should ask them to handle it for her, as keeper, without saying who was driving but telling them this is making her ill and she is vulnerable.

    Surely every driver in NI knows they can just ignore private parking charges?
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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