Dusty's Frugal Fortnights Return!

weenancyinAmerica

One trip when I was in Scotland, they were having a country-western festival in several months.(it was already sold out and people were selling the tickets for a large amount). When I went into a store to get Scottish recordings, there were none out at all - only American country western music. They went in the back room and brought me several tapes which I bought and still listen to on my combination stereo-tape player. 

dustydigger

bertiebalooga said:

Hello Dusty, I've been following your thread from afar, I hope your energy picks up and you feel better over the coming days.
 
I wanted to contribute to your oven search. I've got a Sage Multioven that I would recommend researching. I've had it for a year and no longer use my main oven. There are two versions, the later version has an air fryer but I have the older version without the airfryer which does me just fine and is still available. I describe it as cuddling my food as it cooks because it's so much more gentle cooking than my main oven used to do. And it uses less energy than the main oven.

It sits on the worktop, has a light to see what's going on and is easy to keep clean. It took some thinking to adjust to cooking in a smaller space but I'm glad I took the leap. 

Hope you find what you're looking for. 

 
 

Thanks. Welcome to my thread. That sage multioven looks nice,I had looked at it before. But it seems to only have one shelf,I need a bigger one to do the roasties as well as the meat.'Interesting that all these ovens talk about roasting and baking and toasting and pizza making and a host of other stuff,but what about casseroles? Never see them mentioned. Does no one casserole things these days? Or would it be classed as baking? That doesnt sound right either

dustydigger

weenancyinAmerica said:

One trip when I was in Scotland, they were having a country-western festival in several months.(it was already sold out and people were selling the tickets for a large amount). When I went into a store to get Scottish recordings, there were none out at all - only American country western music. They went in the back room and brought me several tapes which I bought and still listen to on my combination stereo-tape player. 

Both scottish and English folk music is fading away these days,but take comfort that British folk music was a huge influence on american folk,and country and western.

When I was a child in the 50s and early 60s there was a huge revival of all things celtic. Every second child was given a celtic name - Stuart,Ian,Malcolm,Rory,Cameron,Logan,Alistair,Colin,Isla,Katrina,Brenda,Alison,Eileen,Fiona,Jean,Kirsty,Brendon,Brian,Evan,Lloyd,Owen,Rhys,Trevor,Gwen,Rhiannon,Meghan,Meredith,Connor,Finn,Liam, Barry,Neil,Patrick, Keira,Maureen,Niamh,....the list is endless!!

We were taught scottish dancing at school,and celtic music,and there was a very popular TV show called The White Heather Show. It was on for about 15 years,lots of people in kilts doing reels and singing scottish songs. After that it all went quiet,and overt scottishness became the preserve of America.

But it did give me a love of folk music.We were also taught traditional English sons,from ''Summer is icumen In''(14th Century,through ''Greensleeves(attrib to Henry VIII),and all sorts of rousing sea shanties etc.

I very much doubt if such a grounding in traditionalculture features in today's education!

oops,sorry,off on a rant gain,cant help it!

Wicked_Lady

dustydigger said:

weenancyinAmerica said:

One trip when I was in Scotland, they were having a country-western festival in several months.(it was already sold out and people were selling the tickets for a large amount). When I went into a store to get Scottish recordings, there were none out at all - only American country western music. They went in the back room and brought me several tapes which I bought and still listen to on my combination stereo-tape player. 

Both scottish and English folk music is fading away these days,but take comfort that British folk music was a huge influence on american folk,and country and western.

When I was a child in the 50s and early 60s there was a huge revival of all things celtic. Every second child was given a celtic name - Stuart,Ian,Malcolm,Rory,Cameron,Logan,Alistair,Colin,Isla,Katrina,Brenda,Alison,Eileen,Fiona,Jean,Kirsty,Brendon,Brian,Evan,Lloyd,Owen,Rhys,Trevor,Gwen,Rhiannon,Meghan,Meredith,Connor,Finn,Liam, Barry,Neil,Patrick, Keira,Maureen,Niamh,....the list is endless!!

We were taught scottish dancing at school,and celtic music,and there was a very popular TV show called The White Heather Show. It was on for about 15 years,lots of people in kilts doing reels and singing scottish songs. After that it all went quiet,and overt scottishness became the preserve of America.

But it did give me a love of folk music.We were also taught traditional English sons,from ''Summer is icumen In''(14th Century,through ''Greensleeves(attrib to Henry VIII),and all sorts of rousing sea shanties etc.

I very much doubt if such a grounding in traditionalculture features in today's education!

oops,sorry,off on a rant gain,cant help it!

Dusty; I did folk dancing, English, Scottish, Welsh, at Primary school and have now been Morris dancing for over 40 years. I also used to dance with the English national folk dance display group; all of us amateurs but we had to audition to join.

I also play melodeon with two different Morris sides and was out playing and dancing with one at a pub last night.

My children both did folk dancing at school and there are quite a few younger mixed gender Morris sides about nowadays.

All is not lost!

dustydigger

Morning all,another scorcher,thank heavens for our northeast usual cool wind.

Still having a lot of trouble with my back. I'm sure that scan caused all this. 30 mins lying with my arms awkwardly - and excruciatingly - in the air did me no service. Not surprised it showed up in the scan. The first hour in the morning is a nightmare till I somehow work off the pain. I was screaming coming down the stairs,got down 5 steps and was just stuck. Finally did an old trick I use when the knee pain is very bad,came down backwards. It worked for a while. Unfortunately I have been sitting here for 15 mins at the computer,and darent move for the terrible pain. Even COUGHING is painful

One thing I did several times yesterday is slowly inch backwards while sitting on the edge of my chair getting my body in a fairly straight line,while keeping my knees at right angles. Then I slowly straighten one leg at a time,and then slowly sit up. That has been helpful,and I can get up fairly easilly and walk around. But the whole process is daunting and painful.

Silver lining is that my hands are fairly straight,not very painful,so I can type,and can freely whinge to you tolerant folks! Or ramble through lectures on British first name trends of the 1960s,and scottish dancing! Weird

It was always a family joke that ''there goes mam again lecturing''. Whatever topic came on the telly I could tell them fifty thousand fascinating facts,and often sing a few lines from an appropriate song,from a wide selection of genres. I remember DD2 coming home from school in year 4 or 5 I think,beaming.The headmaster at assembly as usual attempted to push culture on Geordie kids in a mining community - not the most easy task - and played Bizet's ''Carmen'',the Toreador song,and my little daughter could tell him title and composer. She gained a bag of sweets and 50p. 50p was quite a big deal back in the 80s,especially in a mining community with 7000 miners thrown on the scrapheap by Maggie Thatcher.I clearly remember the brouhaha when I think it was Middlesborough had exactly ONE job vacancy card displayed at the Job Centre. I think 5000 desperate people applied for that one job.Anyhoo,DD2 has never forgotten that.

 My kids grew up knowing all sorts of esoteric stuff about art, literature,music,history etc.I think they listened hoping the off the wall stuff would lead to more 50p wins!

Right forumites,I'll finish fo now,try to get up,and start the dinner early.I have plantain to wrap in foil and steam for 90 mins,and various veggies.to cook - plus the ubiquitous peanut butter sauce.I will have cauliflower rice and whatever.I have a blood test next week and should at least attempt to eat less sugar for a few days. Last time they tested me they had me dying of pancreatic cancer. Who knows what they'll come up with this time?

dustydigger

Wicked_Lady said:

dustydigger said:

weenancyinAmerica said:

One trip when I was in Scotland, they were having a country-western festival in several months.(it was already sold out and people were selling the tickets for a large amount). When I went into a store to get Scottish recordings, there were none out at all - only American country western music. They went in the back room and brought me several tapes which I bought and still listen to on my combination stereo-tape player. 

Both scottish and English folk music is fading away these days,but take comfort that British folk music was a huge influence on american folk,and country and western.

When I was a child in the 50s and early 60s there was a huge revival of all things celtic. Every second child was given a celtic name - Stuart,Ian,Malcolm,Rory,Cameron,Logan,Alistair,Colin,Isla,Katrina,Brenda,Alison,Eileen,Fiona,Jean,Kirsty,Brendon,Brian,Evan,Lloyd,Owen,Rhys,Trevor,Gwen,Rhiannon,Meghan,Meredith,Connor,Finn,Liam, Barry,Neil,Patrick, Keira,Maureen,Niamh,....the list is endless!!

We were taught scottish dancing at school,and celtic music,and there was a very popular TV show called The White Heather Show. It was on for about 15 years,lots of people in kilts doing reels and singing scottish songs. After that it all went quiet,and overt scottishness became the preserve of America.

But it did give me a love of folk music.We were also taught traditional English sons,from ''Summer is icumen In''(14th Century,through ''Greensleeves(attrib to Henry VIII),and all sorts of rousing sea shanties etc.

I very much doubt if such a grounding in traditionalculture features in today's education!

oops,sorry,off on a rant gain,cant help it!

Dusty; I did folk dancing, English, Scottish, Welsh, at Primary school and have now been Morris dancing for over 40 years. I also used to dance with the English national folk dance display group; all of us amateurs but we had to audition to join.

I also play melodeon with two different Morris sides and was out playing and dancing with one at a pub last night.

My children both did folk dancing at school and there are quite a few younger mixed gender Morris sides about nowadays.

All is not lost!

Good to hear ''All is not lost''. But certainly none of my grandkids now in school have any such experience. I presume it needs enthusiastic teachers etc to promote it,otherwise I dont think it will be very prominent on the national curriculum.

Excuse my total ignorance,but what is the difference between a melodeon and an accordian? And where did you learn how to play. I see accordians in Irish music quite commonly,and C&W,  but apart from that,it rarely appears .

Of course,music itself rarely appears on regular TV anyway. Remember the days when there were regular entertainers with their own TV shows,who would have guests from various genres of popular music? Not a lot left today,and since most music is autotuned,the young'uns are a bit reluctant to sing live!

Wicked_Lady

@dustydigger
An accordion has a piano keyboard on the right and buttons for the notes/chords on the left hand side. It plays the same note whether you pull or push the bellows.

A melodeon has buttons on both sides and gives a different note depending on whether you push or pull so more to learn! Melodeons are also diatonic, so can only play in certain keys as they don't have all the sharps/flats. Mine is a D/G, which is popular in English Folk but not favoured in Ireland. Irish music is played very fast and often only on the melody line. Scottish dance bands mainly have accordion players.

I initially taught myself, using tutor books, but was concerned about getting into bad habits so I had lessons for a couple of years with a more experienced player. I'm still not a great player but my ear has improved immensely and I'm quite quick to pick up the basis of a tune.

Bluegreen143

Interestingly, as my DS is at a Gaelic medium school, Scottish folk music etc seems a much bigger element as part of the school community and events than I remember at school.

I was never into folk music but since he started school and I’ve befriended another mum who is a musician I’d like to learn more. There’s a Gaelic folk music festival in the summer which I’ve been invited to by friends.

My musician friend, who has a child in the same class as DS, volunteered to run music sessions and a ceilidh for all the P1s last term which they all enjoyed. 

beanielou

One of my friends has a lot of accordions 🪗 
Sbe is a folk singer! 

tooldle

Culture Welsh culture is certainly alive and kicking in our schools. Primary schools have their own versions of the Eisteddfod. I can’t remember if secondary schools do also, but there is a national youth Eisteddfod. On top of that we have the national and international Eisteddfods, all of which include music, singing and dancing on top of the other elements. The national events are huge and attract many visitors, lasting for 7-8 days.