My prediction for 10 years time

Mstty

I shall let drones bring me our provisions from the hubs and enjoy the fields of countryside around us.

markin

Mstty said:

I shall let drones bring me our provisions from the hubs and enjoy the fields of countryside around us.

The fields will have solar, wind , or be flooded as wetlands or be re-planted as forest.

Mstty

markin said:

Mstty said:

I shall let drones bring me our provisions from the hubs and enjoy the fields of countryside around us.

The fields will have solar, wind , or be flooded as wetlands or be re-planted as forest.

I'm sure the title to this thread was 10 years not 100🤣🤣🤣 

BUFF

Woolsery said:

markin said:

Swipe said:

BUFF said:

Woolsery said:

My prediction for 10 years time is that the majority of us won't have EVs or other personal vehicles, though we might hire one. The World Economic Forum's material suggests their aim is to have most people living in city/large town hubs within 15km of all the services they might require, so bikes and public transport will take care of that. If you watch their videos, cars don't really feature, though I'm sure they'll be there for the important people.

This is what Scotland is working towards. https://www.sustrans.org.uk/our-blog/get-active/2020/in-your-community/what-is-a-20-minute-neighbourhood

Just a pity my nearest shop is a 50 min walk away.

You will be rounded up and put in a city/

Not quite. From my understanding of the info, urban hubs will become such desirable places most sensible people will want to live in one. There will still be some misguided people living in the countryside and they are referred to as 'the disaffected.'

Given that our nearest supermarket is 12 miles at the closest urban hub of around 6000 people, we look in danger of becoming disaffected quite early on. Our only hope is that those urban folk will still want the odd lamb chop, though I've a horrible feeling reconstituted vegetable protein will be all the rage.

Baa-humbug!

Already, over 80% (& growing) of the UK population  is classed as urban.
Glasgow (& I imagine most cities/large towns) started out as villages with their own high st with baker/butcher etc. that coalesced into a larger whole with a centre with more specialist or larger stores & industries so I see this in many ways as just reverting back to local village hubs.

agentcain

QrizB said:

Benny2020 said:

All those German and Polish EVs are being charged by coal power.

... and yet they're still producing less pollution than an equivalent petrol- or diesel-engined car would.

Doubtful
The car that produces the least pollution on average is the car that's already on the street. Its the car you keep as long as possible before its reduced to rust.
Lets see however the UK car market being disrupted and instead of an average car ownership length of 4 years you have 10. I somehow don't think that's going to happen.  

Woolsery

BUFF said:

Woolsery said:

markin said:

Swipe said:

BUFF said:

Woolsery said:

My prediction for 10 years time is that the majority of us won't have EVs or other personal vehicles, though we might hire one. The World Economic Forum's material suggests their aim is to have most people living in city/large town hubs within 15km of all the services they might require, so bikes and public transport will take care of that. If you watch their videos, cars don't really feature, though I'm sure they'll be there for the important people.

This is what Scotland is working towards. https://www.sustrans.org.uk/our-blog/get-active/2020/in-your-community/what-is-a-20-minute-neighbourhood

Just a pity my nearest shop is a 50 min walk away.

You will be rounded up and put in a city/

Not quite. From my understanding of the info, urban hubs will become such desirable places most sensible people will want to live in one. There will still be some misguided people living in the countryside and they are referred to as 'the disaffected.'

Given that our nearest supermarket is 12 miles at the closest urban hub of around 6000 people, we look in danger of becoming disaffected quite early on. Our only hope is that those urban folk will still want the odd lamb chop, though I've a horrible feeling reconstituted vegetable protein will be all the rage.

Baa-humbug!

Already, over 80% (& growing) of the UK population  is classed as urban.
Glasgow (& I imagine most cities/large towns) started out as villages with their own high st with baker/butcher etc. that coalesced into a larger whole with a centre with more specialist or larger stores & industries so I see this in many ways as just reverting back to local village hubs.

I used to live in a great little city of around 90k people. Being within a mile of the centre we could walk to most things and our girls used to save their bus fare and walk to school 3 miles away on the other side. Public transport was good when required.

Here in the countryside we have a very different experience. I'm not saying it's better, because it isn't necessarily, and even with WFH the tendency is for the population to shrink and services diminish. My village had double its current population in the 1800s so the rush to urban centres has already happened. The people who live here now want the peace and quiet, though agriculture is actually quite noisy!

Only 14% of the country is built on at present and it makes no sense to join up most small communities like ours, miles apart, though the creation of new towns is possible and happening in suitable situations, such as along rail lines.

brewerdave

agentcain said:

QrizB said:

Benny2020 said:

All those German and Polish EVs are being charged by coal power.

... and yet they're still producing less pollution than an equivalent petrol- or diesel-engined car would.

Doubtful
The car that produces the least pollution on average is the car that's already on the street. Its the car you keep as long as possible before its reduced to rust.
Lets see however the UK car market being disrupted and instead of an average car ownership length of 4 years you have 10. I somehow don't think that's going to happen.  

Forget the Green arguments -I'd already worked out that depreciation made new car ownership unaffordable after retirement unless you kept the vehicle til it was almost ready to scrap. I'm driving a 12 year old Kia currently whilst my wife has a nearly 10 year old Suzuki ! Can't see us going electric any time soon - whether the current vehicles fall apart before I do ? Anyone's guess!

Woolsery

On retirement I bought a Mercedes Sprinter van with very low miles for £4k courtesy of Transco. 13 years later the van and I are still in reasonable shape and I've lost count of the money I've saved by owning something so capacious. But there are always those visits to the Doc/MoT garage, when at any time now the news might be, "Sorry there's nothing we can do that's economically viable."