My prediction for 10 years time

bristolleedsfan

Chrysalis said:

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What makes you think the tariff is loss making?  Sure profits would drop, but peak energy is not the same cost as off peak energy.  You are welcome to post an official statement to confirm its an experiment and it loses money, 

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Chrysalis

Ok, so the question now is if its loss making, why are they allowing it for all home usage and who is paying for those losses?

Am I subbing a wealthy EV owner?  Or is it sponsored by car companies/government?

Regardless though my prediction remains.

Woolsery

My prediction for 10 years time is that the majority of us won't have EVs or other personal vehicles, though we might hire one. The World Economic Forum's material suggests their aim is to have most people living in city/large town hubs within 15km of all the services they might require, so bikes and public transport will take care of that. If you watch their videos, cars don't really feature, though I'm sure they'll be there for the important people.

Never mind, we'll be happier, and meanwhile we can focus on ripping out our gas central heating to replace it with heat pumps, larger pipes and much bigger radiators, because all that extra stuff will help us save the planet.

wild666

In 10 years I think we will be on to Hydrogen vehicles rather than battery powered vehicle's and as there was a £10,000 premium or more on the battery powered vehicle it will be the same with hydrogen powered vehicle's. Those who bought battery powered vehicle's will want to sell them or trade them in and it will likely be at a loss. 

Heat pumps might be in some homes but I will say that hydrogen power will be the new form of heating the home and will cost homeowners thousands to convert from either gas or heat pump to hydrogen.

Section62

wild666 said:

Heat pumps might be in some homes but I will say that hydrogen power will be the new form of heating the home and will cost homeowners thousands to convert from either gas or heat pump to hydrogen.

The change from gas to hydrogen would be a transition rather than a big bang (hopefully).  Boilers are already being sold as 'hydrogen ready'.  If hydrogen is to be the way forward (and I've got doubts about that) then the cost for most homeowners will occur as and when they replace their boiler at life expiry.  This approach will very much mirror the introduction of bio-ethanol into road fuels (e.g. E10).  There will be some unlucky people who have boilers (/cars) which are totally unsuitable for use with the new fuel blend, but the average person won't notice, other than perhaps some reduction in life expectancy of their boiler (/car).

Benny2020

74% of the entire universe is Hydrogen.

BUFF

Woolsery said:

My prediction for 10 years time is that the majority of us won't have EVs or other personal vehicles, though we might hire one. The World Economic Forum's material suggests their aim is to have most people living in city/large town hubs within 15km of all the services they might require, so bikes and public transport will take care of that. If you watch their videos, cars don't really feature, though I'm sure they'll be there for the important people.

This is what Scotland is working towards. https://www.sustrans.org.uk/our-blog/get-active/2020/in-your-community/what-is-a-20-minute-neighbourhood

Swipe

BUFF said:

Woolsery said:

My prediction for 10 years time is that the majority of us won't have EVs or other personal vehicles, though we might hire one. The World Economic Forum's material suggests their aim is to have most people living in city/large town hubs within 15km of all the services they might require, so bikes and public transport will take care of that. If you watch their videos, cars don't really feature, though I'm sure they'll be there for the important people.

This is what Scotland is working towards. https://www.sustrans.org.uk/our-blog/get-active/2020/in-your-community/what-is-a-20-minute-neighbourhood

Just a pity my nearest shop is a 50 min walk away.

markin

Swipe said:

BUFF said:

Woolsery said:

My prediction for 10 years time is that the majority of us won't have EVs or other personal vehicles, though we might hire one. The World Economic Forum's material suggests their aim is to have most people living in city/large town hubs within 15km of all the services they might require, so bikes and public transport will take care of that. If you watch their videos, cars don't really feature, though I'm sure they'll be there for the important people.

This is what Scotland is working towards. https://www.sustrans.org.uk/our-blog/get-active/2020/in-your-community/what-is-a-20-minute-neighbourhood

Just a pity my nearest shop is a 50 min walk away.

You will be rounded up and put in a city/

Woolsery

markin said:

Swipe said:

BUFF said:

Woolsery said:

My prediction for 10 years time is that the majority of us won't have EVs or other personal vehicles, though we might hire one. The World Economic Forum's material suggests their aim is to have most people living in city/large town hubs within 15km of all the services they might require, so bikes and public transport will take care of that. If you watch their videos, cars don't really feature, though I'm sure they'll be there for the important people.

This is what Scotland is working towards. https://www.sustrans.org.uk/our-blog/get-active/2020/in-your-community/what-is-a-20-minute-neighbourhood

Just a pity my nearest shop is a 50 min walk away.

You will be rounded up and put in a city/

Not quite. From my understanding of the info, urban hubs will become such desirable places most sensible people will want to live in one. There will still be some misguided people living in the countryside and they are referred to as 'the disaffected.'

Given that our nearest supermarket is 12 miles at the closest urban hub of around 6000 people, we look in danger of becoming disaffected quite early on. Our only hope is that those urban folk will still want the odd lamb chop, though I've a horrible feeling reconstituted vegetable protein will be all the rage.

Baa-humbug!