New reforms to protect renters confirmed - including an Ombudsman for complaints and a ban on 'no fa

CKhalvashi

Sarah1Mitty2 said:

sourpuss2021 said:

Zoe02 said:

Landlords are already been squeezed with increased regulations and costs.

When they say no fault, most times there are faults such as rent arrears, late payments etc

Many landlords will be even pickier and avoid potential problem tenants.

There is already a shortage of housing available at present. 

They are proposing abolishing Section 21 which is no fault.  And no fault means no fault!

If there is a fault like rent arrears, late payment, etc, then it would be a Section 8 eviction.  And those are not being abolished.

Evicting tenants (England and Wales): Section 21 and Section 8 notices - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

So what happens if the landlord wants or even needs to get the house back?

Then they have their rights under S8.

S21 stops tenants from making a house a home. The revocation therefore is a sensible and just protection for renters. Landlords are businesspeople and therefore should not be running such a business if they do not wish to provide protection to their clients.

jonnydeppiwish!

Sarah1Mitty2 said:

sourpuss2021 said:

Zoe02 said:

Landlords are already been squeezed with increased regulations and costs.

When they say no fault, most times there are faults such as rent arrears, late payments etc

Many landlords will be even pickier and avoid potential problem tenants.

There is already a shortage of housing available at present. 

They are proposing abolishing Section 21 which is no fault.  And no fault means no fault!

If there is a fault like rent arrears, late payment, etc, then it would be a Section 8 eviction.  And those are not being abolished.

Evicting tenants (England and Wales): Section 21 and Section 8 notices - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

So what happens if the landlord wants or even needs to get the house back?

It’s a business, not a ‘I don’t want it for a few months, but now I do’.

Rumana03

Sometimes landlords want their property back because they might need to sell their property (due to financial difficulties) or maybe so that they can purchase a home for themselves to live in. I think a lot of people have the misconception that all landlords are well off and have multiple properties which is just not the case.

jonnydeppiwish!

Rumana03 said:

Sometimes landlords want their property back because they might need to sell their property (due to financial difficulties) or maybe so that they can purchase a home for themselves to live in. I think a lot of people have the misconception that all landlords are well off and have multiple properties which is just not the case.

Then this is where people shouldn’t be landlords. They are offering a house to let - people who rent it have to be able to make it their home without having to worry about being turfed out for no reason.

If a potential LL can’t offer this then they need to leave the rental market and sell the property.

SuseOrm

As somebody who rented out the family home twice and regretted it twice I do actually think the accidental landlords just need to be abolished you’re either in it as a professional service or you’re not and if that means people have to sell their homes when they relocate etc will then so be it it needs to be made so unattractive a proposition that nobody wants to do it because it always ends in tears

Rumana03

jonnydeppiwish! said:

Rumana03 said:

Sometimes landlords want their property back because they might need to sell their property (due to financial difficulties) or maybe so that they can purchase a home for themselves to live in. I think a lot of people have the misconception that all landlords are well off and have multiple properties which is just not the case.

Then this is where people shouldn’t be landlords. They are offering a house to let - people who rent it have to be able to make it their home without having to worry about being turfed out for no reason.

If a potential LL can’t offer this then they need to leave the rental market and sell the property.

Yes thats the problem...how would they sell the property if they can't use section 21?

You are saying landlords shouldn't have become landlords but you are forgetting that landlords may also have jobs which thay may have lost during covid or due to other things...
you can't predict when you will get into financial difficulty. 

user1977

Rumana03 said:

jonnydeppiwish! said:

Rumana03 said:

Sometimes landlords want their property back because they might need to sell their property (due to financial difficulties) or maybe so that they can purchase a home for themselves to live in. I think a lot of people have the misconception that all landlords are well off and have multiple properties which is just not the case.

Then this is where people shouldn’t be landlords. They are offering a house to let - people who rent it have to be able to make it their home without having to worry about being turfed out for no reason.

If a potential LL can’t offer this then they need to leave the rental market and sell the property.

Yes thats the problem...how would they sell the property if they can't use section 21?

By using one of the exceptions which will (almost certainly) still apply, similar to what already is in place in Scotland.

CKhalvashi

Rumana03 said:

jonnydeppiwish! said:

Rumana03 said:

Sometimes landlords want their property back because they might need to sell their property (due to financial difficulties) or maybe so that they can purchase a home for themselves to live in. I think a lot of people have the misconception that all landlords are well off and have multiple properties which is just not the case.

Then this is where people shouldn’t be landlords. They are offering a house to let - people who rent it have to be able to make it their home without having to worry about being turfed out for no reason.

If a potential LL can’t offer this then they need to leave the rental market and sell the property.

Yes thats the problem...how would they sell the property if they can't use section 21?

You are saying landlords shouldn't have become landlords but you are forgetting that landlords may also have jobs which thay may have lost during covid or due to other things...
you can't predict when you will get into financial difficulty. 

What would stop them selling with a sitting tenant to another landlord?

They may get a lower price but I'm sure that is taken into account in their business and financial plan. As a businessperson I make both, so a landlord as a businessperson should be doing this too.

hazyjo

Rumana03 said:

Sometimes landlords want their property back because they might need to sell their property (due to financial difficulties) or maybe so that they can purchase a home for themselves to live in. I think a lot of people have the misconception that all landlords are well off and have multiple properties which is just not the case.

They should be able to use the excuse of needing to sell to evict tenants. (Will be very surprised if not the case.)

theoretica

jonnydeppiwish! said:

Sarah1Mitty2 said:

sourpuss2021 said:

Zoe02 said:

Landlords are already been squeezed with increased regulations and costs.

When they say no fault, most times there are faults such as rent arrears, late payments etc

Many landlords will be even pickier and avoid potential problem tenants.

There is already a shortage of housing available at present. 

They are proposing abolishing Section 21 which is no fault.  And no fault means no fault!

If there is a fault like rent arrears, late payment, etc, then it would be a Section 8 eviction.  And those are not being abolished.

Evicting tenants (England and Wales): Section 21 and Section 8 notices - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

So what happens if the landlord wants or even needs to get the house back?

It’s a business, not a ‘I don’t want it for a few months, but now I do’.

Though it seems to me that there should be a place for someone who is - say - going to be working away for some months to be able to rent out their home to someone who is happy/accepts it is a short term arrangement.  Seems better for housing usage than having the property sit empty.