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UC LCWRA appeal

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  • poppy12345
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    Citizens Advice will not help with the SOR. You will need to find a difference advice agnecy.
    tifo said:
    tifo said:
    I've received the statement of reasons yesterday but not the recording. I'll read through it and request permission to appeal.
    Permission to appeal to UT denied, I need to ask the UT now
    Not sure what you mean by that, if they denied you then why ask them again?
  • tifo
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    Permission to appeal to UT denied, I need to ask the UT now
    Not sure what you mean by that, if they denied you then why ask them again?
    The FTT denied permission to appeal, need to ask the UT for it.
  • marcia_
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    edited 22 September 2022 at 1:41PM
    tifo said:
    Permission to appeal to UT denied, I need to ask the UT now
    Not sure what you mean by that, if they denied you then why ask them again?
    The FTT denied permission to appeal, need to ask the UT for it.
      You have been denied permission to do that! 🤔
  • poppy12345
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    marcia_ said:
    tifo said:
    Permission to appeal to UT denied, I need to ask the UT now
    Not sure what you mean by that, if they denied you then why ask them again?
    The FTT denied permission to appeal, need to ask the UT for it.
      You have been denied permission to do that! 🤔

    If the FTT refuses then you can apply to the UT for permission but this doesn't mean they will grant that permision. https://www.scope.org.uk/advice-and-support/further-appeal-upper-tribunal/
    OP you really do need to get some expert advice from either a law centre or Welfare Rights. This whole process could take inexcess of 1 year.


  • marcia_
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     I didn't realise that, thought once permission was denied lower down that was it 
  • tifo
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    edited 22 September 2022 at 2:31PM

    If the FTT refuses then you can apply to the UT for permission but this doesn't mean they will grant that permision. https://www.scope.org.uk/advice-and-support/further-appeal-upper-tribunal/
    OP you really do need to get some expert advice from either a law centre or Welfare Rights. This whole process could take in excess of 1 year.
    Yes, i know, but my claim has already been ongoing for 3 years and i've lost the extra (financial) support LCWRA would have given me from 2019. LCW does not pay anything, in fact, i'm in a worse position than before because my partner works and I didn't have any work commitments, now I have work preparation commitments. They've already asked a few times about sending me for 'extra support' but it's less than what I already know.
  • tifo
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    marcia_ said:

      You have been denied permission to do that! 🤔
    Yes, they say 'permission denied, no error in law has occurred'.
  • tifo
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    I've looked at advice local but there's nobody they point to apart from Citizens Advice and Turn2us. There's no pointers for a tribunal appeal.

    I need a law centre for Lancashire. Greater Manchester or Liverpool covers the North West so might help but i'm not in their catchment area.

    https://www.lawcentres.org.uk/about-law-centres/law-centres-on-google-maps/alphabetically
  • xxxxxxxx
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    Please write out here your FTT Statement of Reasons or PM it to me.  
    What do you think qualifies you for LCWRA on the date of your original decision date which I assume was around May 2022?
  • tifo
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    edited 5 October 2022 at 1:26PM
    xxxxxxxx said:

    Please write out here your FTT Statement of Reasons or PM it to me.

    What do you think qualifies you for LCWRA on the date of your original decision date which I assume was around May 2022?
    I'll scan and PM you the statement of reasons. There would be a lot to write out here.

    I still suffer from my conditions for more than 50% of the year and whilst they gave me LCW, i'd be able to do the work related activities some of the time but not always if my conditions have flared up, and i have no prospect of full time employment as it would mean working erratically as and when I'm able to because a lot of the year i'd be off when my conditions have flared up.

    The DWP decision date was in October 2021 and assessment in August 2021, tribunal in June this year.

    I would have definitely got LCWRA in 2019 when i came to UC but unfortunately I cannot do anything about the 3 year delay which lost me that. The DWP have apologised for the delay in 2019 and paid a nominal sum. I'm taking that to the Independent Case Examiner.
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