Hidden disability blue badge advice and help 2 May 2022 at 12:13PM in Disability money matters 16 replies 2K views

Crumpetlover

Daughter recieves enhamced mobility as she gets 12 points for planning. I am in the process of applying for a blue badge but it is not automatic as she gets 12 points and not 10. Dudley council have requested further information which can not be provided from the gp but she is currently not under and medical professional other than gp. Can anyone offer any advice on how to proceed. Thanks 

KxMx

Why can the information not be provided from GP?
If they are your daughters only medical professional and Dudley Council want the information it will have to come from them.

My GP surgery generally class such requests as private work and charge £28 a letter, I can't see why your daughters GP wouldn't do that? 

poppy12345

Whether a claim will be successful will depend on the reasons why she needs the BB. My daughter claims Enhanced mobility and scored the same as your daughter. She doesn't automatically qualify and it's unlikely they would grant her a BB. Thankfully, i have one and she doesn't go anywhere without me so it's not really needed.

Spoonie_Turtle

You might have to treat it a bit like a PIP application unless your daughter's GP knows her well and understands how her disability affects her in whatever aspect you think might qualify her for a BB.  The medical information they have on record, plus your explanation of how it affects her so that she would benefit from a BB.

The document on this page might help you tailor the explanation
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/blue-badge-research-eligibility-for-people-with-non-visible-disabilities

Also here, from para 4.26
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-blue-badge-scheme-local-authority-guidance-england/blue-badge#determining-the-eligibility-of-individual-applicants

chrisw

I was just wondering - why does exactly 10 points automatically qualify for a blue badge but not 12? 

I don't see the logic, if indeed there is any!

poppy12345

chrisw said:

I was just wondering - why does exactly 10 points automatically qualify for a blue badge but not 12? 

I don't see the logic, if indeed there is any!

A person that would score 10 points for 1E are those that can't undertake any journey because it would cause overwhelming psychological distress to the claimant.

If the person is able to go out "sometimes" a BB may help them because they would be able to park closer to where they're going. Which would hopefully cause them less stress. https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/Global/Migrated_Documents/adviceguide/pip-9-table-of-activities-descriptors-and-points.pdf

Spoonie_Turtle

chrisw said:

I was just wondering - why does exactly 10 points automatically qualify for a blue badge but not 12? 

I don't see the logic, if indeed there is any!

It's not the number of points, it's the descriptor they meet. 
10 points for needing someone / an assistance dog / an orientation aid to follow unfamiliar journeys doesn't automatically qualify. 
10 points for going out causing overwhelming distress does automatically qualify.

Crumpetlover

Thanks everyone for your ideas.

Daughter gets 12 points because she has to be accompanied at all times due to the 'severity'of her hidden needs. 
Journeys even the simpliest ones have to planned, done, and done for a few times in order ro reduce the levels of 'melt down'. Something as simple as a different place to park causes epic issues.
I will contact the GP and see uf they can assist 

Life__Goes__On

chrisw said:

I was just wondering - why does exactly 10 points automatically qualify for a blue badge but not 12? 

I don't see the logic, if indeed there is any!

I agree.

A person might meet both E &  F of the "Planning and following journeys"  as they can't be marked for both, they would get the highest score,
Anyone who gets "F" should get a BB as it unknown if they  would have qualified for "E"

Spoonie_Turtle

Life__Goes__On said:

chrisw said:

I was just wondering - why does exactly 10 points automatically qualify for a blue badge but not 12? 

I don't see the logic, if indeed there is any!

I agree.

A person might meet both E &  F of the "Planning and following journeys"  as they can't be marked for both, they would the the highest score,
Anyone who gets "F" should be get a BB as it unknown if they  would have qualified for "E"

That is incorrect.

"A claimant who satisfies 1E cannot also satisfy 1F. If they cannot undertake a single journey on the majority of days due to overwhelming psychological distress, then 1E will be the applicable descriptor, even if there are occasions when they could follow a familiar route, if accompanied."

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-assessment-guide-for-assessment-providers/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-the-assessment-criteria#mobility-activities



OP, I wish you well with it.  I don't know how your daughter's needs fit in with the BB eligibility - my gut says it might come down to whether she needs a shorter distance from car to building for safety / wellbeing (reducing the likelihood of distress) but I'm not familiar enough with the intricacies to be able to say for sure. 

Crumpetlover

Thanks Spoonie,  the major thing is distance from A to B and does cause overwhelming distress. Part of me can understand because she has to be acvompanied at all times you could say she has someone there  but its the scenario of going somewhere after probably 5 pre runs and then going on actual day and having to park away from destination die to factors out of our control and then its like a new journey and the overwhelming distress it causes.  
I have called the doctors and they have said to pop the form up and they wull fill in the relevant pieces due to the circumstances.