Kitchen surfaces used as breadboards.

jonnydeppiwish!

saajan_12 said:

lesalanos said:

How much will it cost to replace? 

I do not think that you would not be able to claim the full price, allow for wear & tear

It's probably not worth claiming anything from the deposit for me 

BikingBud said:

lesalanos said:

How much will it cost to replace? 

I do not think that you would not be able to claim the full price, allow for wear & tear

It's probably not worth claiming anything from the deposit for me 

What wear and tear, there is deliberate and avoidable damage.

People claim for properties that are dirty why not for avoidable damage.

I would push for retention to enable restoration and let the deposit scheme work it out.

This is damage that could have been avoided by using the kitchen appropriately (ie with chopping boards), I don't think anyone's claiming the nicks and scratches are wear & tear, so there should be some charge

However there will be some wear & tear expected, so the cost of restoring / replacing with new would be too much. 

Basically the worktops should have lasted X years through wear & tear. They actually only lasted 8 years due to the tenants' damage. So the LL can't charge for 8 years worth of normal wear & tear, but can charge for (X-8) years of lost use. 

But surely the worktop is still usable, just not in perfect condition. So if it’s usable it doesn’t need replacing.

FtbDreaming

See I would only expect a laminate worktop to last 10 years. Mines been in since September and I’m hoping it stays good for 3 years before I’ll probably replace with granit or quartz. I’m a pessimist and my kids are scruffs though. 

In response to the OP I wouldn’t claim for it 

GDB2222

jonnydeppiwish! said:

saajan_12 said:

lesalanos said:

How much will it cost to replace? 

I do not think that you would not be able to claim the full price, allow for wear & tear

It's probably not worth claiming anything from the deposit for me 

BikingBud said:

lesalanos said:

How much will it cost to replace? 

I do not think that you would not be able to claim the full price, allow for wear & tear

It's probably not worth claiming anything from the deposit for me 

What wear and tear, there is deliberate and avoidable damage.

People claim for properties that are dirty why not for avoidable damage.

I would push for retention to enable restoration and let the deposit scheme work it out.

This is damage that could have been avoided by using the kitchen appropriately (ie with chopping boards), I don't think anyone's claiming the nicks and scratches are wear & tear, so there should be some charge

However there will be some wear & tear expected, so the cost of restoring / replacing with new would be too much. 

Basically the worktops should have lasted X years through wear & tear. They actually only lasted 8 years due to the tenants' damage. So the LL can't charge for 8 years worth of normal wear & tear, but can charge for (X-8) years of lost use. 

But surely the worktop is still usable, just not in perfect condition. So if it’s usable it doesn’t need replacing.

If I crash into your car, but only do bodywork damage, nothing structural, I'm absolutely delighted that you won't want it repaired. 

Slinky

jonnydeppiwish! said:

saajan_12 said:

lesalanos said:

How much will it cost to replace? 

I do not think that you would not be able to claim the full price, allow for wear & tear

It's probably not worth claiming anything from the deposit for me 

BikingBud said:

lesalanos said:

How much will it cost to replace? 

I do not think that you would not be able to claim the full price, allow for wear & tear

It's probably not worth claiming anything from the deposit for me 

What wear and tear, there is deliberate and avoidable damage.

People claim for properties that are dirty why not for avoidable damage.

I would push for retention to enable restoration and let the deposit scheme work it out.

This is damage that could have been avoided by using the kitchen appropriately (ie with chopping boards), I don't think anyone's claiming the nicks and scratches are wear & tear, so there should be some charge

However there will be some wear & tear expected, so the cost of restoring / replacing with new would be too much. 

Basically the worktops should have lasted X years through wear & tear. They actually only lasted 8 years due to the tenants' damage. So the LL can't charge for 8 years worth of normal wear & tear, but can charge for (X-8) years of lost use. 

But surely the worktop is still usable, just not in perfect condition. So if it’s usable it doesn’t need replacing.

But the OP is now presumably going to try and rent the property out again. A messed up worktop isn't exactly appealing to a future tenant, particularly from a hygiene point of view. And it portrays the message that the landlord doesn't have standards to uphold, so why should the new tenant bother looking after the property as the LL clearly doesn't care about it that much.

ETA when we rented our house out, I left glass worktop savers in the kitchen. I also put brand new saucepans in when I wanted to ensure they looked after the ceramic hob.

youth_leader

Your post reminds me of an incident with my young daughter, caught her chopping peppers on our new granite worktop. 

ANGLICANPAT

Wow, thanks for all comments, hadnt expected the depth of feeling  over cutting without breadboards ,despite my own 'shock '   .I too have a very  old kitchen which might be a bit 'dull' in places from being used and cleaned a million times,  but NO cuts . However,  the rental kitchen surface was only basic .Ill just make sure next time to  tell a tenant 'theres a lovely cutting board in the side cupboard  just to stop you having to worry about surface damage '  . Ill live and learn!

theartfullodger

Sounds like fair wear 'n tear to me.

Artful: landlord since 2000

ANGLICANPAT

Update .  Although the cuts are still there,  they looked terrible, mainly because  of both the quantity, and the fact that the surface is speckly black but underneath , the cuts show  starkly contrasting creamy white.  As an experiment  , I got a new black sharpie and put tiny dots of black ,at quarter inch intervals  along the cuts and speedily   'polished' them in with a sheet of kitchen paper. Took a while with so many,  but the finished result is at least 70% better  ,so I might even leave it a while .  It even perked up the slightly dull areas . Left too long  or inked too heavily though, just looks like pen marks  as I found on a none seen part .