Need advice on a Tree

sj15

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

Is that a Leyland Cypress?  I'd remove it and put a nice little fruit tree in, having consulted your neighbour. 

Was this in jest? Any reason why I'd need to consult the neighbour if removing the tree?

Well, I like to stay on good terms with my neighbours, so discussing changes seems a good idea to me. 

I assumed that you would want to rip  that tree out and put a more suitable tree there. If so, it will eventually grow and spread a bit into your neighbour's garden. So, it might be best to consult.  For example, my neighbour has a plum tree that overhangs our garden, and we very much enjoy the plums. 

You are, of course, free to do what you like, but you did ask for advice.

Oh I think I misunderstood sorry.

I'm not looking to replace it with anything if it gets taken out. Can't be dealing with the hassle to be honest when it grows again. 

I'm not sure that what you have there is a Leylandii, but it may well be something similar. They are a menace. They grow like crazy (easily 50 feet, if left unchecked), and they cause no end of neighbour disputes.

A small fruit tree is not at all the same. 

Thanks for the advice, will have to think about bringing a tree surgeon in to see if it can be removed/replaced. Not really an expense I want right now but could be the best option

GDB2222

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

Is that a Leyland Cypress?  I'd remove it and put a nice little fruit tree in, having consulted your neighbour. 

Was this in jest? Any reason why I'd need to consult the neighbour if removing the tree?

Well, I like to stay on good terms with my neighbours, so discussing changes seems a good idea to me. 

I assumed that you would want to rip  that tree out and put a more suitable tree there. If so, it will eventually grow and spread a bit into your neighbour's garden. So, it might be best to consult.  For example, my neighbour has a plum tree that overhangs our garden, and we very much enjoy the plums. 

You are, of course, free to do what you like, but you did ask for advice.

Oh I think I misunderstood sorry.

I'm not looking to replace it with anything if it gets taken out. Can't be dealing with the hassle to be honest when it grows again. 

I'm not sure that what you have there is a Leylandii, but it may well be something similar. They are a menace. They grow like crazy (easily 50 feet, if left unchecked), and they cause no end of neighbour disputes.

A small fruit tree is not at all the same. 

Thanks for the advice, will have to think about bringing a tree surgeon in to see if it can be removed/replaced. Not really an expense I want right now but could be the best option

Was your neighbour offering to pay for any of this? 

It's not that big a tree. You could DIY it with a hand saw.

sj15

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

Is that a Leyland Cypress?  I'd remove it and put a nice little fruit tree in, having consulted your neighbour. 

Was this in jest? Any reason why I'd need to consult the neighbour if removing the tree?

Well, I like to stay on good terms with my neighbours, so discussing changes seems a good idea to me. 

I assumed that you would want to rip  that tree out and put a more suitable tree there. If so, it will eventually grow and spread a bit into your neighbour's garden. So, it might be best to consult.  For example, my neighbour has a plum tree that overhangs our garden, and we very much enjoy the plums. 

You are, of course, free to do what you like, but you did ask for advice.

Oh I think I misunderstood sorry.

I'm not looking to replace it with anything if it gets taken out. Can't be dealing with the hassle to be honest when it grows again. 

I'm not sure that what you have there is a Leylandii, but it may well be something similar. They are a menace. They grow like crazy (easily 50 feet, if left unchecked), and they cause no end of neighbour disputes.

A small fruit tree is not at all the same. 

Thanks for the advice, will have to think about bringing a tree surgeon in to see if it can be removed/replaced. Not really an expense I want right now but could be the best option

Was your neighbour offering to pay for any of this? 

It's not that big a tree. You could DIY it with a hand saw.

The neighbour was not being forthcoming about paying for it.

She wants to build a shed and grow some fruit and implied the tree was a problem.

I know that I am within my rights to do nothing, but she's an old lady who lives alone and is nice so I feel like I should do something. Trimming it or removing it.

But at the same time it's not a priority for me right now.

To be fair it's not a big tree but cutting it down and disposing of it would take time at some cost.

theoretica

It is also bird nesting season and there may well be nests in there which may not be disturbed - better to wait until later in the year, or you would need a *very* thorough inspection for nests which might call a pause anyway.

Doozergirl

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

Is that a Leyland Cypress?  I'd remove it and put a nice little fruit tree in, having consulted your neighbour. 

Was this in jest? Any reason why I'd need to consult the neighbour if removing the tree?

Well, I like to stay on good terms with my neighbours, so discussing changes seems a good idea to me. 

I assumed that you would want to rip  that tree out and put a more suitable tree there. If so, it will eventually grow and spread a bit into your neighbour's garden. So, it might be best to consult.  For example, my neighbour has a plum tree that overhangs our garden, and we very much enjoy the plums. 

You are, of course, free to do what you like, but you did ask for advice.

Oh I think I misunderstood sorry.

I'm not looking to replace it with anything if it gets taken out. Can't be dealing with the hassle to be honest when it grows again. 

I'm not sure that what you have there is a Leylandii, but it may well be something similar. They are a menace. They grow like crazy (easily 50 feet, if left unchecked), and they cause no end of neighbour disputes.

A small fruit tree is not at all the same. 

Thanks for the advice, will have to think about bringing a tree surgeon in to see if it can be removed/replaced. Not really an expense I want right now but could be the best option

Was your neighbour offering to pay for any of this? 

It's not that big a tree. You could DIY it with a hand saw.

The neighbour was not being forthcoming about paying for it.

She wants to build a shed and grow some fruit and implied the tree was a problem.

I know that I am within my rights to do nothing, but she's an old lady who lives alone and is nice so I feel like I should do something. Trimming it or removing it.

But at the same time it's not a priority for me right now.

To be fair it's not a big tree but cutting it down and disposing of it would take time at some cost.

Hmm.   

She is entitled to cut back anything that overhangs her side.  You're not within your rights to grow a tree over her side of the fence.  

There is also a high hedge act and anything over 2 metres can be complained about so I'm not sure that you are entirely 'within your rights' to grow antisocial trees.  

Those trees are a menace.  There is one on the boundary line at the front of our drive and it is absolutely giant.  Thankfully it's not near anyone's house so as to be a real problem to anyone and it does block the view of a main road and several house, so it is left, but the cost of trying to cut it down would be huge now.  

I've always hated it but it was on the neighbours side.  Now a developer has built houses it looks like it belongs to us, but they built the fence wonky.  

sj15

theoretica said:

It is also bird nesting season and there may well be nests in there which may not be disturbed - better to wait until later in the year, or you would need a *very* thorough inspection for nests which might call a pause anyway.

Could trimming be done whilst the birds are nesting? Or still too disruptive?

sj15

Doozergirl said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

Is that a Leyland Cypress?  I'd remove it and put a nice little fruit tree in, having consulted your neighbour. 

Was this in jest? Any reason why I'd need to consult the neighbour if removing the tree?

Well, I like to stay on good terms with my neighbours, so discussing changes seems a good idea to me. 

I assumed that you would want to rip  that tree out and put a more suitable tree there. If so, it will eventually grow and spread a bit into your neighbour's garden. So, it might be best to consult.  For example, my neighbour has a plum tree that overhangs our garden, and we very much enjoy the plums. 

You are, of course, free to do what you like, but you did ask for advice.

Oh I think I misunderstood sorry.

I'm not looking to replace it with anything if it gets taken out. Can't be dealing with the hassle to be honest when it grows again. 

I'm not sure that what you have there is a Leylandii, but it may well be something similar. They are a menace. They grow like crazy (easily 50 feet, if left unchecked), and they cause no end of neighbour disputes.

A small fruit tree is not at all the same. 

Thanks for the advice, will have to think about bringing a tree surgeon in to see if it can be removed/replaced. Not really an expense I want right now but could be the best option

Was your neighbour offering to pay for any of this? 

It's not that big a tree. You could DIY it with a hand saw.

The neighbour was not being forthcoming about paying for it.

She wants to build a shed and grow some fruit and implied the tree was a problem.

I know that I am within my rights to do nothing, but she's an old lady who lives alone and is nice so I feel like I should do something. Trimming it or removing it.

But at the same time it's not a priority for me right now.

To be fair it's not a big tree but cutting it down and disposing of it would take time at some cost.

Hmm.   

She is entitled to cut back anything that overhangs her side.  You're not within your rights to grow a tree over her side of the fence.  

There is also a high hedge act and anything over 2 metres can be complained about so I'm not sure that you are entirely 'within your rights' to grow antisocial trees.  

Those trees are a menace.  There is one on the boundary line at the front of our drive and it is absolutely giant.  Thankfully it's not near anyone's house so as to be a real problem to anyone and it does block the view of a main road and several house, so it is left, but the cost of trying to cut it down would be huge now.  

I've always hated it but it was on the neighbours side.  Now a developer has built houses it looks like it belongs to us, but they built the fence wonky.  

No issues with her cutting back any overhangs. But she wanted to cut off some of the thick multi-stem thingies on my side of the fence rather than just cut the branches. She seems to want a (drastic) reduction in the chances of future overhang. 

This tree was here when we got the property, I haven't put it in myself or done anything to grow it and certainly have no intentions to be anti-social. And I have no hedges over two metres I think. 

Just trying to figure out the best way forward and right now I'm (maybe) happy to pay for a trimming of the tree but I don't know if this tree will grow in to a monster - in which case I could look to remove it now.

Doozergirl

sj15 said:

Doozergirl said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

sj15 said:

GDB2222 said:

Is that a Leyland Cypress?  I'd remove it and put a nice little fruit tree in, having consulted your neighbour. 

Was this in jest? Any reason why I'd need to consult the neighbour if removing the tree?

Well, I like to stay on good terms with my neighbours, so discussing changes seems a good idea to me. 

I assumed that you would want to rip  that tree out and put a more suitable tree there. If so, it will eventually grow and spread a bit into your neighbour's garden. So, it might be best to consult.  For example, my neighbour has a plum tree that overhangs our garden, and we very much enjoy the plums. 

You are, of course, free to do what you like, but you did ask for advice.

Oh I think I misunderstood sorry.

I'm not looking to replace it with anything if it gets taken out. Can't be dealing with the hassle to be honest when it grows again. 

I'm not sure that what you have there is a Leylandii, but it may well be something similar. They are a menace. They grow like crazy (easily 50 feet, if left unchecked), and they cause no end of neighbour disputes.

A small fruit tree is not at all the same. 

Thanks for the advice, will have to think about bringing a tree surgeon in to see if it can be removed/replaced. Not really an expense I want right now but could be the best option

Was your neighbour offering to pay for any of this? 

It's not that big a tree. You could DIY it with a hand saw.

The neighbour was not being forthcoming about paying for it.

She wants to build a shed and grow some fruit and implied the tree was a problem.

I know that I am within my rights to do nothing, but she's an old lady who lives alone and is nice so I feel like I should do something. Trimming it or removing it.

But at the same time it's not a priority for me right now.

To be fair it's not a big tree but cutting it down and disposing of it would take time at some cost.

Hmm.   

She is entitled to cut back anything that overhangs her side.  You're not within your rights to grow a tree over her side of the fence.  

There is also a high hedge act and anything over 2 metres can be complained about so I'm not sure that you are entirely 'within your rights' to grow antisocial trees.  

Those trees are a menace.  There is one on the boundary line at the front of our drive and it is absolutely giant.  Thankfully it's not near anyone's house so as to be a real problem to anyone and it does block the view of a main road and several house, so it is left, but the cost of trying to cut it down would be huge now.  

I've always hated it but it was on the neighbours side.  Now a developer has built houses it looks like it belongs to us, but they built the fence wonky.  

No issues with her cutting back any overhangs. But she wanted to cut off some of the thick multi-stem thingies on my side of the fence rather than just cut the branches. She seems to want a (drastic) reduction in the chances of future overhang. 

This tree was here when we got the property, I haven't put it in myself or done anything to grow it and certainly have no intentions to be anti-social. And I have no hedges over two metres I think. 

Just trying to figure out the best way forward and right now I'm (maybe) happy to pay for a trimming of the tree but I don't know if this tree will grow in to a monster - in which case I could look to remove it now.

It will grow into a monster.  It falls under the high hedge act, it doesn't matter that it is a tree. 

Here's 'ours'.   That's my roof in the background! 6ft site fencing for scale.  

theoretica

Doozergirl said:

It will grow into a monster.  It falls under the high hedge act, it doesn't matter that it is a tree.

That is not my understanding:

'A complaint cannot be made under the Act about single trees or shrubs, whatever their size. A
tree or shrub that has multiple stems, all growing from the same trunk or root plate, remains a
single tree or shrub and so falls outside the scope of the Act. This is the position even though
the multiple stems might result in a considerable spread.'

from https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/11476/highhedgescomplaints.pdf

theoretica

sj15 said:

theoretica said:

It is also bird nesting season and there may well be nests in there which may not be disturbed - better to wait until later in the year, or you would need a *very* thorough inspection for nests which might call a pause anyway.

Could trimming be done whilst the birds are nesting? Or still too disruptive?

That will be a case by case basis - obviously a major trim which removes or exposes a nest would be disruptive, and taking 3 inches off a twig somewhere probably wouldn't be...