Refused technical drawings

Ellcee

GDB2222 said:

You are buying a pig in a poke, and the developer likes it that way. 

Perhaps they know that it’s not being built in accordance with the plan? 

Unfortunately so I hate spending this amount of money blind.

AFF8879

Ellcee said:

user1977 said:

Go to the building control department at the council and look at them there?

To be fair, it isn't a normal request to make, so difficult to say what the normal response ought to be! Is there something in particular you were wanting to check?

From interior designers, I've spoken to it is perfectly normal to ask, otherwise, how can you measure up your furniture?

The degree of accuracy available in the sales particulars would be sufficient for most people wanting to know if a particular sofa, dining table etc would fit in room. Not many people would need measurements precise to the millimetre, except for curtains/blinds (which are normally measured by the company you hire to fit anyway).

comeandgo

I would never buy anything on the measurements of the drawings, they will give you an idea of the sizes but not exactly to the cm.

Ellcee

AFF8879 said:

Ellcee said:

user1977 said:

Go to the building control department at the council and look at them there?

To be fair, it isn't a normal request to make, so difficult to say what the normal response ought to be! Is there something in particular you were wanting to check?

From interior designers, I've spoken to it is perfectly normal to ask, otherwise, how can you measure up your furniture?

The degree of accuracy available in the sales particulars would be sufficient for most people wanting to know if a particular sofa, dining table etc would fit in room. Not many people would need measurements precise to the millimetre, except for curtains/blinds (which are normally measured by the company you hire to fit anyway).

What do you mean by sales particulars? I don't have any measurements at all, just a basic layout which is not sufficient to order furniture.

user1977

Ellcee said:

AFF8879 said:

Ellcee said:

user1977 said:

Go to the building control department at the council and look at them there?

To be fair, it isn't a normal request to make, so difficult to say what the normal response ought to be! Is there something in particular you were wanting to check?

From interior designers, I've spoken to it is perfectly normal to ask, otherwise, how can you measure up your furniture?

The degree of accuracy available in the sales particulars would be sufficient for most people wanting to know if a particular sofa, dining table etc would fit in room. Not many people would need measurements precise to the millimetre, except for curtains/blinds (which are normally measured by the company you hire to fit anyway).

What do you mean by sales particulars? 

Whatever bumf the developers have already provided you, which generally include floor plans with measurements.

Ellcee

user1977 said:

Ellcee said:

AFF8879 said:

Ellcee said:

user1977 said:

Go to the building control department at the council and look at them there?

To be fair, it isn't a normal request to make, so difficult to say what the normal response ought to be! Is there something in particular you were wanting to check?

From interior designers, I've spoken to it is perfectly normal to ask, otherwise, how can you measure up your furniture?

The degree of accuracy available in the sales particulars would be sufficient for most people wanting to know if a particular sofa, dining table etc would fit in room. Not many people would need measurements precise to the millimetre, except for curtains/blinds (which are normally measured by the company you hire to fit anyway).

What do you mean by sales particulars? 

Whatever bumf the developers have already provided you, which generally include floor plans with measurements.

This is what I am trying to request, they have not given me any floor plans with measurements, only a basic diagram.

user1977

Ellcee said:

user1977 said:

Ellcee said:

AFF8879 said:

Ellcee said:

user1977 said:

Go to the building control department at the council and look at them there?

To be fair, it isn't a normal request to make, so difficult to say what the normal response ought to be! Is there something in particular you were wanting to check?

From interior designers, I've spoken to it is perfectly normal to ask, otherwise, how can you measure up your furniture?

The degree of accuracy available in the sales particulars would be sufficient for most people wanting to know if a particular sofa, dining table etc would fit in room. Not many people would need measurements precise to the millimetre, except for curtains/blinds (which are normally measured by the company you hire to fit anyway).

What do you mean by sales particulars? 

Whatever bumf the developers have already provided you, which generally include floor plans with measurements.

This is what I am trying to request, they have not given me any floor plans with measurements, only a basic diagram.

Have you had a look at the planning docs? (e.g. on the council's website) 

Those will generally include floorplans.

I suspect it's your request for "technical" drawings which may be causing confusion.

Section62

user1977 said:

Have you had a look at the planning docs? (e.g. on the council's website) 

Those will generally include floorplans.

I suspect it's your request for "technical" drawings which may be causing confusion.

These days they often don't have (internal) dimensions - instead perhaps a table giving the square metreage of each habitable room and the total per floor/building.

GixerKate

From my understanding its normal - I believe there's copywrite implications or something.  What I do know is that you can see the drawings under supervision but can't take pics or take a copy away.  To be honest, if you were buying an older house you wouldn't have technical drawings either.

When is the sales home available?  Usually there is a sales home available in plenty of time to take measurements etc (once you've confirmed that the sales home is the same size and layout as the place you are buying).

Section62

GixerKate said:

From my understanding its normal - I believe there's copywrite implications or something.  What I do know is that you can see the drawings under supervision but can't take pics or take a copy away.  To be honest, if you were buying an older house you wouldn't have technical drawings either.

BiB1 - often claimed by developers, but not true.  If the drawing is subject to copyright then it cannot legally be used by other people without the copyright owner's permission. The copyright owner giving a copy of the drawing to a prospective purchaser doesn't give them (the purchaser) the right to copy or use the drawings for any purpose other than that they were given permission for.

BiB2 - the difference is that the older house would be available for the purchaser to measure up, and to employ surveyors and other technical experts to examine in whatever level of detail is agreed between the parties. Buying off-plan doesn't permit that - the information and scope for investigation is limited to documents including the plans, usually well beyond the point the buyer is financially committed.

If you can't access and consider the plans then "buying off-plan" would be better described as "buying blind".