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Please help me to identify this lock.

Belenus
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My wife has lost or mislaid her front door key today. She may have dropped it in Tesco but it has not yet been handed in.


There is a Tesco Club Card tag attached to the keyring and we are concerned that a dishonest person or employee may find it and be able to identify our address from that tag. The chances are small and I intend no slight on Tesco employees but we don't want to take any risks so we plan to change the lock.


The lock was fitted when the house was built in about 2005. It is a multi point mechanism.


The only mark on the lock itself is UAP. The key has The Universal 5 Pin, UL1 and Davenport Burgess marked on it but I do not know if that is an original key or a replacement.


I presume that a suitable replacement cylinder will be easily available. Tomorrow I will disassemble the lock and see if that help me to identify the correct replacement. I can take that to a local hardware shop or locksmith. Meanwhile any suggestions would be welcome.


Below are photos of the lock from the inside (white) the outside (blue) and the key.


Thanks







A man walked into a car showroom.
He said to the salesman, “My wife would like to talk to you about the Volkswagen Golf in the showroom window.”
Salesman said, “We haven't got a Volkswagen Golf in the showroom window.”
The man replied, “You have now mate".
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  • Carrot007
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    Looks to be an old eurocylinder that could be opened in about 20 seconds by someone proficient at it. (the security level marking are usually on the front/back. Should have been replaced anyway for that reason.

    Takes 5 seconds to remove so you can measure the size (it's the screw on the frame edge which is not on any photo you gave).

  • Belenus
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    My wife has found the key. She went back to Tesco and searched the trolley park where she left her shopping trolley and saw the key there jammed in a trolley. 

    Based on Carrot007's comment above we will still get a new more secure lock anyway.

    What would you recommend?

    Thanks
    A man walked into a car showroom.
    He said to the salesman, “My wife would like to talk to you about the Volkswagen Golf in the showroom window.”
    Salesman said, “We haven't got a Volkswagen Golf in the showroom window.”
    The man replied, “You have now mate".
  • BUFF
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    edited 12 April 2022 at 9:52PM
    something with a 3 star kitemark or diamond rating

    do you want keyed internally again or a thumbturn?
  • Auti
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    Just a thought - I had to make sure that all my locks complied to a certain standard specified by my insurance (contents/buildings) otherwise I would not be covered. Perhaps it states on your insurance what is acceptable? Think has to conform to BS3621 five lever mortise deadlock. 

  • greyteam1959
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    Toolstation or Screwfix  & a YouTube video would be the way to go.

  • shiraz99
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    edited 12 April 2022 at 8:04PM
    Belenus said:
    My wife has found the key. She went back to Tesco and searched the trolley park where she left her shopping trolley and saw the key there jammed in a trolley. 

    Based on Carrot007's comment above we will still get a new more secure lock anyway.

    What would you recommend?

    Thanks
    Ultion locks make some of the best locks around.
  • BUFF
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    ebay will be a lot cheaper than Screwfix or Toolstation.
  • Auti said:
    Think has to conform to BS3621 five lever mortise deadlock. 

    You won't be able to fit a five lever mortise deadlock to a uPVC door with a euro cylinder multipoint locking system! They're for timber doors. Just fit a decent replacement cylinder.
  • Auti
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    Auti said:
    Think has to conform to BS3621 five lever mortise deadlock. 

    You won't be able to fit a five lever mortise deadlock to a uPVC door with a euro cylinder multipoint locking system! They're for timber doors. Just fit a decent replacement cylinder.
    sorry - thought it was a wooden door in the picture - my mistake
  • canaldumidi
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    Take off the internal and external handles, and remove the lock cylinder as well.
    Take the whole lot to a decent locksmith and ask for a replacement.
    Don't forget to get extras keys cut if needed!
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