To take doorbell or not?

george4064

Usually doorbell is listed in the Fixtures & Fittings form, what did you put in that form?

For me, whatever you stipulated in the form is what I would do.

Soot2006

vic_sf49 said:

I probably wouldn't even notice, let alone care.

I'd been in my property a few days, when my doorbell rang, at which point I discovered I had a doorbell.

Same here.

and in reverse, the buyers of our old house complained we had removed the doorbell. There never was a doorbell, just a old fashioned knocker! I said this to the EA who relayed the message and he pointed out there was an old doorbell ringer up in the corner in the corridor. Never noticed it in 10 years, or maybe "noticed" it 10 years and promptly unsaw it forever. Needless to say, it was never connected to a doorbell in our time there.

Noneforit999

Exodi said:

I'd defintely take my Nest doorbell if I sold up!

It's a £200 doorbell, it's not even remotely similar to taking light bulbs, door knobs, etc!

If it was the cheap Ring-Amazon one (that sells for £30-£40) then I might consider leaving it but the main Ring & Nest ones aren't cheap.

We are taking all the lightbulbs when we move......as they are Philips hue. Will be replacing them with standard LED ones though. We are also taking some of the light fittings we have as my Wife wants to keep a few for the new house and they cost over £100 each, will replace them with a standard ceiling rose.

Exodi

BikingBud said:

Exodi said:

I'd defintely take my Nest doorbell if I sold up!

It's a £200 doorbell, it's not even remotely similar to taking light bulbs, door knobs, etc!

If it was the cheap Ring-Amazon one (that sells for £30-£40) then I might consider leaving it but the main Ring & Nest ones aren't cheap.

And the cooker might be £400-800

And the boiler might be £1000-£2500

And the quartz work top might be £10000-12000

And this might be and that might be, etc, etc.

Where do you stop?

Taking the cooker isn't unheard of but I notice that you deliberately didn't mention other kitchen appliances like the fridge, washing machine, dishwasher, etc. but instead specific items that are very difficult/impractical to remove. You think people wouldn't take the cooker/boiler if they were on wheels and only required a 3 pin plug to fully function?

TV's get taken, all furniture gets taken, the only things that usually get left are 1) hard or impractical to remove 2) made to measure 3) of neglible value.

A cooker and boiler is impractical to remove, a quartz worktop is made to measure (and would bespoke blinds or window fittings), however a £200 doorbell is not of 'neglible value', unlike lightbulbs, door knobs, etc.

It's not at all because of your implication that sellers are overcome by generosity. Pointless to pretend otherwise, e.g.-

Why not take the floorboards
Why not take the bricks
Why not take the roof

They would if they could.

robatwork

Exodi said:

BikingBud said:

Exodi said:

I'd defintely take my Nest doorbell if I sold up!

It's a £200 doorbell, it's not even remotely similar to taking light bulbs, door knobs, etc!

If it was the cheap Ring-Amazon one (that sells for £30-£40) then I might consider leaving it but the main Ring & Nest ones aren't cheap.

And the cooker might be £400-800

And the boiler might be £1000-£2500

And the quartz work top might be £10000-12000

And this might be and that might be, etc, etc.

Where do you stop?

Taking the cooker isn't unheard of but I notice that you deliberately didn't mention other kitchen appliances like the fridge, washing machine, dishwasher, etc. but instead specific items that are plumbed and/or wired in and therefore not practical to take. You think people wouldn't take the cooker/boiler if they were on wheels and only required a 3 pin plug to fully function?

TV's get taken, all furniture gets taken, the only things that usually get left are 1) hard or impractical to remove 2) made to measure 3) of neglible value.

A cooker and boiler is impractical to remove, a quartz worktop is made to measure (and would bespoke blinds or window fittings), however a £200 doorbell is not of 'neglible value', unlike lightbulbs, door knobs, etc.

It's not at all because of your implication that sellers are overcome by generosity. Pointless to pretend otherwise, e.g.-

Why not take the floorboards
Why not take the bricks
Why not take the roof

They would if they could.

I 99% go with the golden "turn the house upside and leave what doesn't fall" rule. The previous residents where I am now took their nice built in oven and stuck in a cheap one but sadly left a big hole at the top where it didn't fill the space. Apart from shrugging and thinking how low rent they are I moved on.  I wouldn't dream of taking plants that weren't in pots, although it seems lots do this. 

I think on the Nest issue that as I also have thermostats (not on the wall) I'd take them and the doorbell but replace them with functional devices, assuming the house I moved to didn't have them already. I'd never take blinds/curtains or light fittings even if they were expensive made-to-measure. 

Exodi

robatwork said:

Exodi said:

BikingBud said:

Exodi said:

I'd defintely take my Nest doorbell if I sold up!

It's a £200 doorbell, it's not even remotely similar to taking light bulbs, door knobs, etc!

If it was the cheap Ring-Amazon one (that sells for £30-£40) then I might consider leaving it but the main Ring & Nest ones aren't cheap.

And the cooker might be £400-800

And the boiler might be £1000-£2500

And the quartz work top might be £10000-12000

And this might be and that might be, etc, etc.

Where do you stop?

Taking the cooker isn't unheard of but I notice that you deliberately didn't mention other kitchen appliances like the fridge, washing machine, dishwasher, etc. but instead specific items that are plumbed and/or wired in and therefore not practical to take. You think people wouldn't take the cooker/boiler if they were on wheels and only required a 3 pin plug to fully function?

TV's get taken, all furniture gets taken, the only things that usually get left are 1) hard or impractical to remove 2) made to measure 3) of neglible value.

A cooker and boiler is impractical to remove, a quartz worktop is made to measure (and would bespoke blinds or window fittings), however a £200 doorbell is not of 'neglible value', unlike lightbulbs, door knobs, etc.

It's not at all because of your implication that sellers are overcome by generosity. Pointless to pretend otherwise, e.g.-

Why not take the floorboards
Why not take the bricks
Why not take the roof

They would if they could.

I 99% go with the golden "turn the house upside and leave what doesn't fall" rule. The previous residents where I am now took their nice built in oven and stuck in a cheap one but sadly left a big hole at the top where it didn't fill the space. Apart from shrugging and thinking how low rent they are I moved on.  I wouldn't dream of taking plants that weren't in pots, although it seems lots do this. 

I think on the Nest issue that as I also have thermostats (not on the wall) I'd take them and the doorbell but replace them with functional devices, assuming the house I moved to didn't have them already. I'd never take blinds/curtains or light fittings even if they were expensive made-to-measure. 

Indeed, we share similar views on the matter. Though I have no doubt some people are at extreme ends on this, I think most people generally sit where we are.

Noneforit999

Exodi said:

BikingBud said:

Exodi said:

I'd defintely take my Nest doorbell if I sold up!

It's a £200 doorbell, it's not even remotely similar to taking light bulbs, door knobs, etc!

If it was the cheap Ring-Amazon one (that sells for £30-£40) then I might consider leaving it but the main Ring & Nest ones aren't cheap.

And the cooker might be £400-800

And the boiler might be £1000-£2500

And the quartz work top might be £10000-12000

And this might be and that might be, etc, etc.

Where do you stop?

Taking the cooker isn't unheard of but I notice that you deliberately didn't mention other kitchen appliances like the fridge, washing machine, dishwasher, etc. but instead specific items that are very difficult/impractical to remove. You think people wouldn't take the cooker/boiler if they were on wheels and only required a 3 pin plug to fully function?

TV's get taken, all furniture gets taken, the only things that usually get left are 1) hard or impractical to remove 2) made to measure 3) of neglible value.

A cooker and boiler is impractical to remove, a quartz worktop is made to measure (and would bespoke blinds or window fittings), however a £200 doorbell is not of 'neglible value', unlike lightbulbs, door knobs, etc.

It's not at all because of your implication that sellers are overcome by generosity. Pointless to pretend otherwise, e.g.-

Why not take the floorboards
Why not take the bricks
Why not take the roof

They would if they could.

Surely as a buyer this is what the fixtures and fittings form is for?

I know its not legally binding but a buyer should not make assumptions as to what will be left and what will not. If its not made clear on the fixtures and fittings form, a buyer should query it.

Personally I prefer to buy new when I move house in terms of the white goods unless I had literally just bought a new one but then I would make it clear on the form I was taking it.