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  • Benny2020
    Benny2020 Posts: 525 Forumite
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    25% of the money you top up goes on paying the debt. So you spend £213.33 and £160 goes on fuel and £51.33 goes on paying the debt?
  • Gerry1
    Gerry1 Posts: 10,848 Forumite
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    Surely you must have some form of heating, otherwise you'll have damp and mould, and the pipes may even freeze?  Is it a semi and you're getting background heating leaking through from next door?
    Or do you have some panel heaters, convectors, oil filled radiators, fan heaters etc?
  • Jobfromhome
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    Gerry1 said:
    Surely you must have some form of heating, otherwise you'll have damp and mould, and the pipes may even freeze?  Is it a semi and you're getting background heating leaking through from next door?
    Or do you have some panel heaters, convectors, oil filled radiators, fan heaters etc?
    yes gas heating but we dont turn it on at all unless really cold as prices to high
  • Benny2020
    Benny2020 Posts: 525 Forumite
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    Children or 7 adults? are there lots of TV's, Laptops, etc? So you heat water with gas and use electric for everything else.
  • pochase
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    QrizB said:
    Utilita sent a smart reader thing but it never worked. the gas we hardly ever use just heats up water. Ill have get utilita on it 
    OK, if you've got a smart meter with Utilita does that mean you've got an on-line account? Can you see your daily consumption there, split into 30-minute slices?
    Something like this (mine, yours will be very different):

    Are these any good?

    weirdly says we spent just under £160 past 30 days but I have topped up way more than that???
    Do you maybe have a credit? 

    The gas you are using the last seven days is to much for just heating water twice a day. You are sure you are not heating also?

    Also do you also have graphs showing the usage during a day (24hours) like @QrizB used?
  • Jobfromhome
    Jobfromhome Posts: 74 Forumite
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    pochase said:
    QrizB said:
    Utilita sent a smart reader thing but it never worked. the gas we hardly ever use just heats up water. Ill have get utilita on it 
    OK, if you've got a smart meter with Utilita does that mean you've got an on-line account? Can you see your daily consumption there, split into 30-minute slices?
    Something like this (mine, yours will be very different):

    Are these any good?

    weirdly says we spent just under £160 past 30 days but I have topped up way more than that???
    Do you maybe have a credit? 

    The gas you are using the last seven days is to much for just heating water twice a day. You are sure you are not heating also?

    Also do you also have graphs showing the usage during a day (24hours) like @QrizB used?
    nope just heating water tank twice a day sometimes three times. I cant find a graph for 24hrs
  • QrizB
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    nope just heating water tank twice a day sometimes three times. I cant find a graph for 24hrs
    That could do it. If you have a 200-litre tank, heating it frokm 10C to 60C will take around 12kWh. If you do that three time yopu're looking at 36kWh plus boiler losses.
    It's a bit of a shame you can't find a 24h graph but thank you for the ones you have shared.
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  • Jobfromhome
    Jobfromhome Posts: 74 Forumite
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    QrizB said:
    nope just heating water tank twice a day sometimes three times. I cant find a graph for 24hrs
    That could do it. If you have a 200-litre tank, heating it frokm 10C to 60C will take around 12kWh. If you do that three time yopu're looking at 36kWh plus boiler losses.
    It's a bit of a shame you can't find a 24h graph but thank you for the ones you have shared.
    Maybe when the debt has gone and I can find where the most electric is used it will be more bearable

  • Jobfromhome
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    Benny2020 said:
    Children or 7 adults? are there lots of TV's, Laptops, etc? So you heat water with gas and use electric for everything else.
    4 adults 3 children gas is water heating, electric for everything else

  • Mstty
    Mstty Posts: 4,209 Forumite
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    @Jobfromhome

    TV's, games consoles, kettle, hairdryers, oven on lots,

    All the above can be cheap if all using them together once but if multiple meals at different times, TVs on all ove the house etc and the kettle on and off all day?

    That sort of thing
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