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Ebay refused refund

mgfvvc
mgfvvc Posts: 1,233 Forumite
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edited 31 March 2022 at 12:20PM in Consumer rights
I bought a bed for my daughter from an ebay seller called lantianpowerltd. After using it for 3 weeks it collapsed. I opened a return case.
The seller sent me out a replacement part, but I said I didn't want a replacement and I wanted a refund. They also said that the address on the ebay shipping label could not accept returns and they would give me a warehouse address to return it to, but they never did.
They then asked ebay to close the case because they had supplied a replacement. Ebay have said I because they shipped a replacement I will not get a refund.
I consider the bed unsafe and will not use it.
If I click through the links to appeal their decision, I just get redirected back a page telling me a decision has been made.
I feel that ebay are supporting the seller in ripping me off.
Is there anything I can do?

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  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 20,985 Forumite
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    Retailer has the right to choose what they do in the 1st instance. So by providing a replacement they have fulfilled their rights.
    Life in the slow lane
  • mgfvvc
    mgfvvc Posts: 1,233 Forumite
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    edited 31 March 2022 at 12:32PM
    Retailer has the right to choose what they do in the 1st instance. So by providing a replacement they have fulfilled their rights.
    So I have to accept a bed I consider unsafe for my daughter to sleep in?
  • You should go back to eBay as the seller should arrange the return if the item is too large for the standard label. eBay's  guarantee terms don't support replacements (from what I remember through experience).

    It really should be the seller arranges the return and you get a refund or if the seller doesn't bother then you get a refund any way.
    In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces
  • mgfvvc said:
    Retailer has the right to choose what they do in the 1st instance. So by providing a replacement they have fulfilled their rights.
    So I have to accept a bed I consider unsafe for my daughter to sleep in?
    The chances are it was a one-off faulty part. 
    The retailer has the choice to repair, refund or replace the item - if you don't feel comfortable with their decision then that's your issue unfortunately. 
    You do have a short term right to reject, as per the Consumer Rights Act - but this is within 30 days of purchase. 
    It's worthy of note that your rights are against the seller, not eBay - eBay just tries to arbitrate issues. If the seller is un-cooperative you'll have to either go down the chargeback / section 75 route (depending on how you paid) or Small Claims. 
  • born_again
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    mgfvvc said:
    Retailer has the right to choose what they do in the 1st instance. So by providing a replacement they have fulfilled their rights.
    So I have to accept a bed I consider unsafe for my daughter to sleep in?
    Well they've at least now had their one opportunity to replace/repair it, and if it has sorted it, then I'd leave it for now.

    BUT... if it does break again, then you can reject it for a refund.
    Life in the slow lane
  • mgfvvc said:
    Retailer has the right to choose what they do in the 1st instance. So by providing a replacement they have fulfilled their rights.
    So I have to accept a bed I consider unsafe for my daughter to sleep in?

     
    It's worthy of note that your rights are against the seller, not eBay - eBay just tries to arbitrate issues. 
    OP has a legal agreement with eBay (governed by the laws of E&W) which includes a guarantee with specific terms.

    They do actually mention replacements, my bad, but say

    Buyers and sellers may agree to another solution, such as a full or partial refund while the buyer keeps the item, or a replacement item instead of a refund.

    Doesn't sound like the OP agreed though. 
    In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces
  • bris
    bris Posts: 10,548 Forumite
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    Retailer has the right to choose what they do in the 1st instance. So by providing a replacement they have fulfilled their rights.
    It's only 3 weeks old they have a 30 day right to reject.
  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 20,985 Forumite
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    It was the "Used" for 3 weeks, but no mention of timescale from purchase. 
    Life in the slow lane
  • I'm often surprised when people start new threads on here - often with a lot of irrelevant detail - but fail to mention things like dates etc.

    Maybe it's because I come from a working background where dates and timelines were important factors, but surely you don't need to have insider knowledge of consumer law to appreciate that simple facts like when you bought something and how long you had it before it broke or malfunctioned might be significant?
  • mgfvvc said:
    Retailer has the right to choose what they do in the 1st instance. So by providing a replacement they have fulfilled their rights.
    So I have to accept a bed I consider unsafe for my daughter to sleep in?

     
    It's worthy of note that your rights are against the seller, not eBay - eBay just tries to arbitrate issues. 
    OP has a legal agreement with eBay (governed by the laws of E&W) which includes a guarantee with specific terms.

    They do actually mention replacements, my bad, but say

    Buyers and sellers may agree to another solution, such as a full or partial refund while the buyer keeps the item, or a replacement item instead of a refund.

    Doesn't sound like the OP agreed though. 
    They have contractual rights against eBay but legal rights against the seller.

    Come on lunatic, surely you know this by now.
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