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pochase

A solar panel cannot store any energy at all. You will need additional battery packs to do this, which will add quite a lot to the cost.

bery_451

pochase said:

A solar panel cannot store any energy at all. You will need additional battery packs to do this, which will add quite a lot to the cost.

Solar Panels is Technology that evolves over time like Computers/Phones getting Faster/More efficient etc.

What I don't want is fitting solar panels on my roof now then next year there's a much better, smaller, more efficient solar panels being released making my solar panes obsolete you know what I mean.

Benny2020

With solar panels there is an upper limit, currently they are around 22% efficient, obviously max is 100% efficient but don't hang around for 100% efficient panels because they will never exist.
I have had mine 7 years and they really have not improved in that time.
How long will you wait?

bery_451

Benny2020 said:

With solar panels there is an upper limit, currently they are around 22% efficient, obviously max is 100% efficient but don't hang around for 100% efficient panels because they will never exist.
I have had mine 7 years and they really have not improved in that time.
How long will you wait?

Dayum just 22%  ?

Didn't Solar technology came out many many decades ago that helped NASA put the 1st man on the moon in the 60s?

How are the Space Stations up there now running on 22% solar efficiency? Confusing 

22% efficiency is more suited for the Sahara Dessert.

Should be evolved to like 75% efficiency now with that much time that has past. I think Elon Musk will get us to 75% efficiency by this weekend.

Benny2020

First panels in 1954 were 6% efficient.

Benny2020

space station panels are 14% efficient.

Benny2020

Not much progress made on efficiency but does that matter? You size them for your needs.

QrizB

bery_451 said:

Dayum just 22%  ?

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Benny2020 said:

I have had mine 7 years and they really have not improved in that time.

Mine were fitted a decade ago, and were ~15% efficient at that time.

Modern panels are around 20% efficient (example) so that's a 5% improvement in 10 years.

bery_451 said:

What I don't want is fitting solar panels on my roof now then next year there's a much better, smaller, more efficient solar panels being released making my solar panes obsolete you know what I mean.

Waiting for improved efficiency is almost a generational thing; your kids might get a better system for their roofs, but you probably want the benefit before you die not after.

bery_451

I think all this renewable energy such as solar, wind etc. wont attract investors because how can you profit from something that is out there and is for free too. There's no company or corporation that has rights ownership of the sun, oceans and the weather. 

The big oil and coal cartels attracts all the investors because these are profitable industries that pay dividends to its shareholders. They wont go down without a fight and of course these cartels lobby politicians on their side too.

If renewables like solar attracted investors then solar panel efficiency would be around 75% now and we would not be in this energy crisis mess now.

I cant see the UK going Carbon Net Zero by 2050, unless they go back to Nuclear Uranium energy or do something risky and crazy like build a contained artificial sun indoors or something like China has done.

bery_451

This Rishi Sunak's New Cost of Living Support Package that he is offering to Households, is this help towards bills available to all energy companies and their tariffs or only available for SVR tariffs?