Need advice on accident with a bus

CarDriver404

born_again said:

If you are saying bus is at fault then you are covered.
But looking at the pics. No marks on bus before No 7 which is 3/4 down the bus. Which would point to bus being well in front at start of turn. Which should make any driver realise that they will need more space to get round & give them plenty of room 👍

If your lucky if will be a bus that has all round camera's.

Its  a two lane traffic. And bus move in to mine. Anyway, its a slow moving traffic, my car was stopped before the contact, Like you said, with out cctv, its going to be pickle,  Luckily shop behind has the cctv i need to go view today. Anyway, i don’t think bus can turn in to things just because they need plenty of space, you dont see, you dont go. 😂

Car_54

Rule 221. "Large vehicles. These may need extra road space to turn or to deal with a hazard that you are not able to see. If you are following a large vehicle, such as a bus or articulated lorry, be aware that the driver may not be able to see you in the mirrors. Be prepared to stop and wait if it needs room or time to turn."

Mutton_Geoff

Similar story on Pepipoo that got moved to the Flame Pit as it's clear the driver should be more considerate to other drivers on the road and not assume they have right of way to close gaps on larger vehicles.

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=143558

born_again

CarDriver404 said:

born_again said:

If you are saying bus is at fault then you are covered.
But looking at the pics. No marks on bus before No 7 which is 3/4 down the bus. Which would point to bus being well in front at start of turn. Which should make any driver realise that they will need more space to get round & give them plenty of room 👍

If your lucky if will be a bus that has all round camera's.

Its  a two lane traffic. And bus move in to mine. Anyway, its a slow moving traffic, my car was stopped before the contact, Like you said, with out cctv, its going to be pickle,  Luckily shop behind has the cctv i need to go view today. Anyway, i don’t think bus can turn in to things just because they need plenty of space, you dont see, you dont go. 😂

Which is clear from your pictures, as is the fact the lane the bus is narrower & has a bollard or traffic light on the edge of the triangle. So can not swing over the kerb at that side.

If you look at your 1st overhead pic. The blue car (in lane you were) is just a bit further back than where the impact was. Given the point of impact. The bus was further round the corner to start with. So bus would have right of way.

CarDriver404

born_again said:

CarDriver404 said:

born_again said:

If you are saying bus is at fault then you are covered.
But looking at the pics. No marks on bus before No 7 which is 3/4 down the bus. Which would point to bus being well in front at start of turn. Which should make any driver realise that they will need more space to get round & give them plenty of room 👍

If your lucky if will be a bus that has all round camera's.

Its  a two lane traffic. And bus move in to mine. Anyway, its a slow moving traffic, my car was stopped before the contact, Like you said, with out cctv, its going to be pickle,  Luckily shop behind has the cctv i need to go view today. Anyway, i don’t think bus can turn in to things just because they need plenty of space, you dont see, you dont go. 😂

Which is clear from your pictures, as is the fact the lane the bus is narrower & has a bollard or traffic light on the edge of the triangle. So can not swing over the kerb at that side.

If you look at your 1st overhead pic. The blue car (in lane you were) is just a bit further back than where the impact was. Given the point of impact. The bus was further round the corner to start with. So bus would have right of way.

Point of the impact is just behind the front wheel of the bus. Where i stopped immediately and the bus continued to drive and stopped where the photo shows. Bus driver and me were on the same line when the corner was approached. 

CarDriver404

Actually I stopped the car before the impact. When i saw bus was getting too close.  

CarDriver404

Sandtree said:

CarDriver404 said:

Sandtree said:

Either you claim off your insurance and they will deal with the bus company, go to an accident management company and they will do everything on credit and then recover from the bus company or continue to deal with it yourself and accept the timelines.

Whilst to you or I our vehicles are really important to us, want to get it fixed, we have an emotional and principle aspect to it the same won't be true for the bus company. There are layers of management things have to go through, its not their highest priority etc and it will simply take longer than you want which is why most go via their own insurance and let their insurers deal with the frustration etc.

Appreciated. 

With TPFT cover that eliminates option one but still leaves options 2 and 3... some accident management companies won't want to get involved if there is a potential dispute in liability but others will given how much they charge for the car rental they can afford to lose some cases.

If you are going to deal with it yourself then you can still be doing the ground work like getting estimates for the repairs etc so you are ready to move forward once the claim handlers for the bus company have gotten all their materials together.

We decided to deal with it ourself. Bus company asked us to send the details of the damages and estimated cost of repair today, this evening i called for update, and they said they are still waiting for the cctv.. 

Car_54

born_again said:

CarDriver404 said:

born_again said:

If you are saying bus is at fault then you are covered.
But looking at the pics. No marks on bus before No 7 which is 3/4 down the bus. Which would point to bus being well in front at start of turn. Which should make any driver realise that they will need more space to get round & give them plenty of room 👍

If your lucky if will be a bus that has all round camera's.

Its  a two lane traffic. And bus move in to mine. Anyway, its a slow moving traffic, my car was stopped before the contact, Like you said, with out cctv, its going to be pickle,  Luckily shop behind has the cctv i need to go view today. Anyway, i don’t think bus can turn in to things just because they need plenty of space, you dont see, you dont go. 😂

Which is clear from your pictures, as is the fact the lane the bus is narrower & has a bollard or traffic light on the edge of the triangle. So can not swing over the kerb at that side.

If you look at your 1st overhead pic. The blue car (in lane you were) is just a bit further back than where the impact was. Given the point of impact. The bus was further round the corner to start with. So bus would have right of way.

Read your Highway Code. No-one had ”right of way”

Grumpy_chap

CarDriver404 said:

Point of the impact is just behind the front wheel of the bus. Where i stopped immediately and the bus continued to drive and stopped where the photo shows.

The photos you posted don't show that contact was right at the front of the bus - with just these photos an external assessor could determine that the impact was only at the rear of the bus.  If you took photos of the whole length of the bus they may help to show the case that you did not simply impact the rear of the bus, but the bus cut across your path that you were clearly in.  No need to post further photos here, but you need to keep them for the insurers to see if you had the presence of mind to take those photos when in the heat of the moment.

RogerBareford

CarDriver404 said:

Actually I stopped the car before the impact. When i saw bus was getting too close.  

I hope you now realise this was the wrong course of action to take. In future if you beleive a moving vehicle is going to hit you then you shouldn't just stop you should continued and turned away from the vehicle to avoid the collision. The photos clearly show you had more room to your right side to do this.

It doesn't mean your at fault but you really need to be more aware of what is going on so you can take evasive action to avoid an accident.

I personally aim to avoid all accidents even if they would be determined not to be my fault as it's far less hassle.