Employers NI Payment

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I am a 64 year old agency supplied worker (ASW) and have to pay both my personal and my employers national insurance (NI) contributions.
How can this be fare and is there anyway I can claim the employers NI back?
I have paid my personal NI contributions since I started work as a 16 year old apprentice back in 1974.
Surely this is the next PPI claim in waiting.

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  • [Deleted User]
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    Kevin22 said:
    I am a 64 year old agency supplied worker (ASW) and have to pay both my personal and my employers national insurance (NI) contributions.
    How can this be fare and is there anyway I can claim the employers NI back?
    I have paid my personal NI contributions since I started work as a 16 year old apprentice back in 1974.
    You should ask in the employment forum about this

    Surely this is the next PPI claim in waiting.

    Not a chance 

  • Exodi
    Exodi Posts: 2,921 Forumite
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    I'm very puzzled by what you've said. Unless I'm mistaken, it is illegal to deduct the employers NI's from your wages.

    In essence, it should be billed to the client by the agency. If what you've stated is accurate, this is not normal...
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  • molerat
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    edited 8 March 2022 at 11:52AM
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    Exodi said:
    I'm very puzzled by what you've said. Unless I'm mistaken, it is illegal to deduct the employers NI's from your wages.

    In essence, it should be billed to the client by the agency. If what you've stated is accurate, this is not normal...
    Probably under an umbrella and not employed but a contractor.


  • Exodi
    Exodi Posts: 2,921 Forumite
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    edited 8 March 2022 at 11:56AM
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    molerat said:
    Exodi said:
    I'm very puzzled by what you've said. Unless I'm mistaken, it is illegal to deduct the employers NI's from your wages.

    In essence, it should be billed to the client by the agency. If what you've stated is accurate, this is not normal...
    https://www.itcontracting.com/employers-national-insurance-umbrella/


    Have you read this site yourself?

    The site seems to be responding as if the question was 'why do I have to pay employers NI at all when I don't have an employer?' rather than the employee specifically paying it. Down the page it actually says:

    “All employers must pay employers national insurance, and it is illegal to deduct this from a worker’s income. That is one reason why compliant umbrella firms always ensure that their employees understand the difference between the assignment rate and their gross pay.”

    “The assignment rate includes employment costs such as employers’ national insurance, holiday pay, apprenticeship levy, and pensions contributions. Such costs should always be factored into the assignment rate because, as employers, umbrellas are legally obliged to pay them.”

    I read the OP as indicating they are directly paying employers NI from their wages.

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