Ex neighbours possessions left on our drive

Mojisola

KazJenn said:

We can find out where he is living fairly easily although this is temporary as he is staying with his parents and the ex-wife has told us that he has used up all available storage there.

You haven't got available storage either!

I would pack everything up and take it to the parents' house and leave it with them.  If it stays on their doorstep, he will quickly find somewhere else to take it.

Section62

AFF8879 said:

MEM62 said:

anotheruser said:

MEM62 said:

KazJenn said:

Just to clarify. We did not give consent explicitly. 

Yes you did.    

No, they did not.
They did not specifically say it would be okay to store for X number of days.
The only (verbal) agreement was until 5pm.  

On what basis do you not consider that to be consent?  Consent is not negated because it had a short time limit.  

If it went to a judge, I think it would be quite easily arguable that consent was given “under duress” - hence didn’t actually give consent - OP was suddenly faced with this volatile situation and felt pressured to respond accordingly. It’s not like the feuding couple came and asked for their consent in advance. 

Where was the use of force or threat?

Tell them (politely) to remove the items immediately - call 999 if threat or force is employed.

No matter what spurious arguments are put forward by helpful posters, the OP consented to the items remaining on the drive.  Standing up in court and lying by saying you only agreed this "under duress" potentially ratchets up the seriousness of any offence.  There were witnesses.  Lying about the circumstances would simply be foolish, particularly when the OP has a completely 'legal' route they can follow to get rid of the neighbour's junk.

newsgroupmonkey_

GDB2222 said:

Sadly, the OP has responsibility for these goods. If you take them to the dump, you would be liable to the ex-neighbour for the value.

In order to minimise the scope for conflict, you would need to itemise everything before dumping it, which is really quite a big job. I suggest that, instead of taking that on, you nag the ex neighbour to come and collect his stuff.  Or, at least, get his agreement in writing to you disposing of the stuff.

Disagree. I'd say it was fly tipping.

They neither invited nor accepted the stuff.

Brie

I wonder if the stuff is still there!

Slithery

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

GDB2222 said:

Sadly, the OP has responsibility for these goods. If you take them to the dump, you would be liable to the ex-neighbour for the value.

In order to minimise the scope for conflict, you would need to itemise everything before dumping it, which is really quite a big job. I suggest that, instead of taking that on, you nag the ex neighbour to come and collect his stuff.  Or, at least, get his agreement in writing to you disposing of the stuff.

Disagree. I'd say it was fly tipping.

They neither invited nor accepted the stuff.

They accepted it when they agreed that it could stay there until later on in the day.

newsgroupmonkey_

Slithery said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

GDB2222 said:

Sadly, the OP has responsibility for these goods. If you take them to the dump, you would be liable to the ex-neighbour for the value.

In order to minimise the scope for conflict, you would need to itemise everything before dumping it, which is really quite a big job. I suggest that, instead of taking that on, you nag the ex neighbour to come and collect his stuff.  Or, at least, get his agreement in writing to you disposing of the stuff.

Disagree. I'd say it was fly tipping.

They neither invited nor accepted the stuff.

They accepted it when they agreed that it could stay there until later on in the day.

And as has been mentioned a number of times, without proof, this would unlikely stand up in court.

MEM62

@KazJenn  What was the outcome?  

Section62

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

Slithery said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

GDB2222 said:

Sadly, the OP has responsibility for these goods. If you take them to the dump, you would be liable to the ex-neighbour for the value.

In order to minimise the scope for conflict, you would need to itemise everything before dumping it, which is really quite a big job. I suggest that, instead of taking that on, you nag the ex neighbour to come and collect his stuff.  Or, at least, get his agreement in writing to you disposing of the stuff.

Disagree. I'd say it was fly tipping.

They neither invited nor accepted the stuff.

They accepted it when they agreed that it could stay there until later on in the day.

And as has been mentioned a number of times, without proof, this would unlikely stand up in court.

And as has been mentioned many times, there were witnesses.

When you submit a statement for court proceedings you are required to sign a statement of truth.  You are cautioned that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against a person who makes a false statement without an honest belief in its truth.  Proceedings for contempt of court are a serious matter.

Anyone suggesting someone should lie in civil court proceedings shouldn't be giving advice in this forum.

Mutton_Geoff

OP not been back since morning of the original post so clearly not interested in hearing the advice which she sought. Why do so many MSEers do this?

canaldumidi

Mutton_Geoff said:

OP not been back since morning of the original post so clearly not interested in hearing the advice which she sought. Why do so many MSEers do this?

Stressful situation arose. OP didn't know what to do/what options there were so posted here. Situation resolved soon after, so OP goton with their life.

Yes- frustrating for people who responded, made suggestions, debated with each other etc, but I think we can assume the stuff has moved. Somewere!