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Kaspersky - trusted or not given what has just happened?

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  • debitcardmayhem
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    newlywed said:
    I have free kapersky on my mobile.

    any suggestions for a free antivirus for Samsung phones and also for iPads?
    thanks
    yes don't use anything

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  • newlywed
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    newlywed said:
    I have free kapersky on my mobile.

    any suggestions for a free antivirus for Samsung phones and also for iPads?
    thanks
    yes don't use anything

    Seriously? even On an android phone used to browse the web and read emails?

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  • SiliconChip
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    newlywed said:
    newlywed said:
    I have free kapersky on my mobile.

    any suggestions for a free antivirus for Samsung phones and also for iPads?
    thanks
    yes don't use anything

    Seriously? even On an android phone used to browse the web and read emails?


    Yes, seriously. The first hit I got when doing a search for Android viruses was a statement from AGV: "Can Android phones get viruses? No, Android phones can't get viruses." It does then go on to say they are vulnerable to malware but you don't need anti-virus software to deal with that.
  • 400ixl
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    edited 5 March 2022 at 9:45PM
    There are viruses in the wild for Android and IOS. To say they can't get infected is not correct.

    Now to taper that back, the risk is lower provided you stick to some basics. Do not root your device, do not give any apps administrative privileges, only install well known apps from the official stores and keep the protection switched on (e.g. Play protect on Android). Alongside the basic behaviour of not downloading unknown content you will be reasonably safe and just periodically running anti malware sweeps will be enough.

    If you will be steeping outside of those boundaries then installing an anti virus application could be advisable.
  • J_B
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    newlywed said:
    I have free kapersky on my mobile.

    any suggestions for a free antivirus for Samsung phones and also for iPads?
    thanks

    I've never had an AV on my mobile and we've never had AV on the Ipad that someone has
  • RumRat
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    400ixl said:
    There are viruses in the wild for Android and IOS. To say they can't get infected is not correct.

    Now to taper that back, the risk is lower provided you stick to some basics. Do not root your device, do not give any apps administrative privileges, only install well known apps from the official stores and keep the protection switched on (e.g. Play protect on Android). Alongside the basic behaviour of not downloading unknown content you will be reasonably safe and just periodically running anti malware sweeps will be enough.

    If you will be steeping outside of those boundaries then installing an anti virus application could be advisable.
    In other words...Most normal users won't need anything.
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  • debitcardmayhem
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    newlywed said:
    newlywed said:
    I have free kapersky on my mobile.

    any suggestions for a free antivirus for Samsung phones and also for iPads?
    thanks
    yes don't use anything

    Seriously? even On an android phone used to browse the web and read emails?


    Yes Seriously I have both and use them for much more than browse the web and read emails, but of course I take it with a pinch of salt especially when they tell me I can expand my manhood/wealth or fakebook/two-hatter/tickingclock/thedailymail tell me we are doomed  with whatever is this current headline.
    Oh and this reply is posted by a bot o:)
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  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 6 March 2022 at 11:29AM
    newlywed said:
    I have free kapersky on my mobile.

    any suggestions for a free antivirus for Samsung phones and also for iPads?
    thanks
    AV is totally pointless on an Apple mobile device.

    Each app runs in a segregated virtual environment that can not see what else is running on the phone, that includes your so-called AV app - it couldn't detect a virus even if it wanted to.

    Android is a bit different because the AV apps can actually see what else is installed and also intervene with your browser to block malicious links and phishing websites but I wouldn't pay for them personally.
  • Yorkshire_Midge
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    edited 9 May 2024 at 12:42PM
    newlywed said:
    I have free kapersky on my mobile.

    any suggestions for a free antivirus for Samsung phones and also for iPads?
    thanks
    AV is totally pointless on an Apple device.

    Each app runs in a segregated virtual environment that can not see what else is running on the phone, that includes your so-called AV app - it couldn't detect a virus even if it wanted to.

    Android is a bit different because the AV apps can actually see what else is installed and also intervene with your browser to block malicious links and phishing websites but I wouldn't pay for them personally.
    Mac OS has their own built in AV called XProtect, so I'm not sure I'd use the word pointless (if that was the case, Apple wouldn't have bothered).  That is why there are commercial AV products you can add to your mac too - the same as the PC world - as the commercial products from cyber specialists will tend to have a slight edge over Apple's own inclusive offering. 

    A mac can be a carrier of an infected file for sure even if it won't allow it to execute.  There are certainly viruses that can infect macs - but the key difference is the mac OS is inherently less vulnerable than Windows so it's harder to achieve.  

    Comparing the mac to the PC world, I'd sum it up by saying that the case for a paid for AV on a mac is weaker than it is for a PC. But it might still be appropriate for certain use cases. 

    On Android, I use the free version of Lookout. It's OK for a free product - and suits me because I don't tend to use my Android phone much for internet access anyway. 
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 9 May 2024 at 12:42PM
    newlywed said:
    I have free kapersky on my mobile.

    any suggestions for a free antivirus for Samsung phones and also for iPads?
    thanks
    AV is totally pointless on an Apple device.

    Each app runs in a segregated virtual environment that can not see what else is running on the phone, that includes your so-called AV app - it couldn't detect a virus even if it wanted to.

    Android is a bit different because the AV apps can actually see what else is installed and also intervene with your browser to block malicious links and phishing websites but I wouldn't pay for them personally.
    Mac OS has their own built in AV called XProtect, so I'm not sure I'd use the word pointless (if that was the case, Apple wouldn't have bothered).  That is why there are commercial AV products you can add to your mac too - the same as the PC world - as the commercial products from cyber specialists will tend to have a slight edge over Apple's own inclusive offering. 

    A mac can be a carrier of an infected file for sure even if it won't allow it to execute.  There are certainly viruses that can infect macs - but the key difference is the mac OS is inherently less vulnerable than Windows so it's harder to achieve.  

    Comparing the mac to the PC world, I'd sum it up by saying that the case for a paid for AV on a mac is weaker than it is for a PC. But it might still be appropriate for certain use cases. 

    On Android, I use the free version of Lookout. It's OK for a free product - and suits me because I don't tend to use my Android phone much for internet access anyway. 
    The comment I was replying to was talking about a mobile Apple device, I've updated my comment to reflect that to avoid confusion.
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