Facebook scam...

DB1904

Sandtree said:

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

Action Fraud is the police so it would be duplication.

As to what else you can do... that really depends on what they have done and if you think you have any accurate real world details about them. Unfortunately those truly intending to defaud, rather than sell "genuine fakes" etc, don't tend to give their real details.

It's not and the OP's report in all likelihood will never be seen by the police. 

SiliconChip said:

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

Action Fraud is the police so it would be duplication.

As to what else you can do... that really depends on what they have done and if you think you have any accurate real world details about them. Unfortunately those truly intending to defaud, rather than sell "genuine fakes" etc, don't tend to give their real details.

It's not and the OP's report in all likelihood will never be seen by the police. 

Oh yes it is!

"The service is run by the City of London Police working alongside the National Fraud Intelligence Bureau (NFIB) who are responsible for assessment of the reports and to ensure that your fraud reports reach the right place. The City of London Police is the national policing lead for economic crime."

https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/what-is-action-fraud

Unless they are defrauding people by saying they are the police?

Where do the claim to be the police?

As you already quoted:

"The service is run by the City of London Police working alongside the National Fraud Intelligence Bureau (NFIB) who are responsible for assessment of the reports and to ensure that your fraud reports reach the right place. The City of London Police is the national policing lead for economic crime."

https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/what-is-action-fraud 

Run by, so are some neighbourhood watch schemes neither make any claims to be the police. Feel free to evidence action fraud are the police or make any clams they are. 

mikcatta

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

Action Fraud is the police so it would be duplication.

As to what else you can do... that really depends on what they have done and if you think you have any accurate real world details about them. Unfortunately those truly intending to defaud, rather than sell "genuine fakes" etc, don't tend to give their real details.

It's not and the OP's report in all likelihood will never be seen by the police. 

SiliconChip said:

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

Action Fraud is the police so it would be duplication.

As to what else you can do... that really depends on what they have done and if you think you have any accurate real world details about them. Unfortunately those truly intending to defaud, rather than sell "genuine fakes" etc, don't tend to give their real details.

It's not and the OP's report in all likelihood will never be seen by the police. 

Oh yes it is!

"The service is run by the City of London Police working alongside the National Fraud Intelligence Bureau (NFIB) who are responsible for assessment of the reports and to ensure that your fraud reports reach the right place. The City of London Police is the national policing lead for economic crime."

https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/what-is-action-fraud

Unless they are defrauding people by saying they are the police?

Where do the claim to be the police?

As you already quoted:

"The service is run by the City of London Police working alongside the National Fraud Intelligence Bureau (NFIB) who are responsible for assessment of the reports and to ensure that your fraud reports reach the right place. The City of London Police is the national policing lead for economic crime."

https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/what-is-action-fraud 

Run by, so are some neighbourhood watch schemes neither make any claims to be the police. Feel free to evidence action fraud are the police or make any clams they are. 

I never imagined they would recover any funds, but it would be "nice" to know they had taken some action. No wonder there are some many scammers.

Sandtree

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

Action Fraud is the police so it would be duplication.

As to what else you can do... that really depends on what they have done and if you think you have any accurate real world details about them. Unfortunately those truly intending to defaud, rather than sell "genuine fakes" etc, don't tend to give their real details.

It's not and the OP's report in all likelihood will never be seen by the police. 

SiliconChip said:

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

Action Fraud is the police so it would be duplication.

As to what else you can do... that really depends on what they have done and if you think you have any accurate real world details about them. Unfortunately those truly intending to defaud, rather than sell "genuine fakes" etc, don't tend to give their real details.

It's not and the OP's report in all likelihood will never be seen by the police. 

Oh yes it is!

"The service is run by the City of London Police working alongside the National Fraud Intelligence Bureau (NFIB) who are responsible for assessment of the reports and to ensure that your fraud reports reach the right place. The City of London Police is the national policing lead for economic crime."

https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/what-is-action-fraud

Unless they are defrauding people by saying they are the police?

Where do the claim to be the police?

As you already quoted:

"The service is run by the City of London Police working alongside the National Fraud Intelligence Bureau (NFIB) who are responsible for assessment of the reports and to ensure that your fraud reports reach the right place. The City of London Police is the national policing lead for economic crime."

https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/what-is-action-fraud 

Run by, so are some neighbourhood watch schemes neither make any claims to be the police. Feel free to evidence action fraud are the police or make any clams they are. 

Or if you go to https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/police-officers-and-police-staff then it states its "hosted by"

The page is amusing given several of the items linked state it is for internal use only and not for public broadcast. 

Given your normal disdain for insurers etc its interesting to note that insurers will take a report to Action Fraud as satisfying the policy requirement of reporting the matter to the police.

DB1904

Sandtree said:

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

Action Fraud is the police so it would be duplication.

As to what else you can do... that really depends on what they have done and if you think you have any accurate real world details about them. Unfortunately those truly intending to defaud, rather than sell "genuine fakes" etc, don't tend to give their real details.

It's not and the OP's report in all likelihood will never be seen by the police. 

SiliconChip said:

DB1904 said:

Sandtree said:

Action Fraud is the police so it would be duplication.

As to what else you can do... that really depends on what they have done and if you think you have any accurate real world details about them. Unfortunately those truly intending to defaud, rather than sell "genuine fakes" etc, don't tend to give their real details.

It's not and the OP's report in all likelihood will never be seen by the police. 

Oh yes it is!

"The service is run by the City of London Police working alongside the National Fraud Intelligence Bureau (NFIB) who are responsible for assessment of the reports and to ensure that your fraud reports reach the right place. The City of London Police is the national policing lead for economic crime."

https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/what-is-action-fraud

Unless they are defrauding people by saying they are the police?

Where do the claim to be the police?

As you already quoted:

"The service is run by the City of London Police working alongside the National Fraud Intelligence Bureau (NFIB) who are responsible for assessment of the reports and to ensure that your fraud reports reach the right place. The City of London Police is the national policing lead for economic crime."

https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/what-is-action-fraud 

Run by, so are some neighbourhood watch schemes neither make any claims to be the police. Feel free to evidence action fraud are the police or make any clams they are. 

Or if you go to https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/police-officers-and-police-staff then it states its "hosted by"

The page is amusing given several of the items linked state it is for internal use only and not for public broadcast. 

Given your normal disdain for insurers etc its interesting to note that insurers will take a report to Action Fraud as satisfying the policy requirement of reporting the matter to the police.

They're obviously not interested in recovering stolen vehicles then as your link states action fraud do not have investigative powers, Strange thing for the police to state. 

Keep looking for some evidence to support your claim. 

jon81uk

mikcatta said:

jon81uk said:

mikcatta said:

DB1904 said:

mikcatta said:

Ok, I have spoken to the local police and they say it is correct it should be reported to Action Fraud only.

Loosing money is painful and I doubt I will see it again, lesson learned the hard way. I've warned as many people as I can. Not sure what else I can do. 

You've not said how you were scammed. I take it from this post that the location and identification of the suspect are unknown. 

I tried to purchase an item from Facebook and of course it never arrived. On closer examination, there were warning signs, that I stupidly overlooked. What details I have, are on the report to Action Fraud, but essentially details of the scammer are unknown.

I can't provide any further information at this stage.

I assume you mean purchase an item that was advertised on Facebook?

Was it an advert linking out to a company (what company?)?
Or was it a private sale via Facebook Marketplace or a local selling group (like the old newspaper classifieds)?

Facebook don't sell anything except advertising. Either you followed a link to a scam company or you have been scammed by a person in a private sale.

Private sale

Of course it’s no use to you now it’s happened but always remember that Facebook marketplace is no different to the newspaper classifieds or a car boot sale.
Best to use cash in person or okay to use PayPal for goods and services (not friends/family) as PayPal give protection then items being posted. If you don’t have details on the person you bought from not much more you can do. Maybe small claims if the value is high enough to be worth the effort.

soolin

jon81uk said:

mikcatta said:

jon81uk said:

mikcatta said:

DB1904 said:

mikcatta said:

Ok, I have spoken to the local police and they say it is correct it should be reported to Action Fraud only.

Loosing money is painful and I doubt I will see it again, lesson learned the hard way. I've warned as many people as I can. Not sure what else I can do. 

You've not said how you were scammed. I take it from this post that the location and identification of the suspect are unknown. 

I tried to purchase an item from Facebook and of course it never arrived. On closer examination, there were warning signs, that I stupidly overlooked. What details I have, are on the report to Action Fraud, but essentially details of the scammer are unknown.

I can't provide any further information at this stage.

I assume you mean purchase an item that was advertised on Facebook?

Was it an advert linking out to a company (what company?)?
Or was it a private sale via Facebook Marketplace or a local selling group (like the old newspaper classifieds)?

Facebook don't sell anything except advertising. Either you followed a link to a scam company or you have been scammed by a person in a private sale.

Private sale

Of course it’s no use to you now it’s happened but always remember that Facebook marketplace is no different to the newspaper classifieds or a car boot sale.
Best to use cash in person or okay to use PayPal for goods and services (not friends/family) as PayPal give protection then items being posted. If you don’t have details on the person you bought from not much more you can do. Maybe small claims if the value is high enough to be worth the effort.

It’s usually done via PayPal friends and family which always surprises me, as PayPal warn before you pay that this is basically intended for gifts to people you know and does not give you any buyer protection. Alternatively it is bank transfer which, as you say, is the same as giving cash to a stranger. 

born_again

Action fraud do report cases out to local forces. But if they act or not is a different matter. 

I guess @mikcatta payed by bank transfer. So only details would be sort & Acc no. Not a lot for them to go on, finding bank easy but a lot of work to find out anything from the bank.

DB1904

born_again said:

Action fraud do report cases out to local forces. But if they act or not is a different matter. 

I guess @mikcatta payed by bank transfer. So only details would be sort & Acc no. Not a lot for them to go on, finding bank easy but a lot of work to find out anything from the bank.

The thing is it's not routine, there has to be volume with a line of enquiry within the local force area. The simple fact is when action fraud is disbanded if the reports made to action fraud are made to the police the crime figures will be through the roof.