We'd like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum. This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are - or become - political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

huge bill on electricity of vulnerable severely disabled man- carers left heating on constantly

My adult son moved into a property with a team of carers looking after him. I was a bit concerned about the increases in energy prices so asked them to do a meter reading so we could check on his bills and get some idea of what they might go up to. I was staggered to discover that they have been having the underfloor heating on all day and night. He has a debt now of 1900 pounds for four months use. I am furious but what can I do? I think the care company are responsible but they won't agree to pay part of the bill. Any ideas? He is on benefits and cannot afford this at all. 
«13

Comments

  • Agree with them what hours the heating should be on - presumably a time can be set and instructions left to not over-ride it. However, you obviously need to ensure the property is warm enough.

    With regards to paying the bill, if he cannot afford to make the payment, contact the energy company with regards to managing repayments. 
  • Gerry1
    Gerry1 Posts: 10,680 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    There are various benefits and grants available, just ask Citizens Advice.
  • QrizB
    QrizB Posts: 15,504 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Third Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    Welcome to the forum.
    cansu1 said:
    My adult son moved into a property with a team of carers looking after him.... He has a debt now of 1900 pounds for four months use. I am furious but what can I do?
    I assume this is an all-electric property, without gas, oil or LPG? They are the most expensive to run and direct electric heating is one of the pricier ways to heat them. Even so, £450/month is on the high side. How big is this property? What supplier and tariff is he on?

    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Shell (now TT) BB / Lebara mobi. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 33MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
  • theoretica
    theoretica Posts: 12,686 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Does the property have a programmable thermostat?  This sounds like a situation where one would be very worthwhile.
    But a banker, engaged at enormous expense,
    Had the whole of their cash in his care.
    Lewis Carroll
  • yes, it is all electric. I am really struggling to get the carers to engage with me on it. 
    I have told them he cannot afford heating on and to switch it off at night and for part  of the day. I have asked them to tell me when it is on and when it is off and to keep a record. They simply don't seem to care too much. 
  • EssexHebridean
    EssexHebridean Posts: 24,073 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 18 February 2022 at 3:01PM
    Are the carers saying / implying that they feel that for the sake of his health the current level of temperature needs to be maintained? If not, is it a system that you can physically programme to come on and off as needed and instruct the careers that it’s not to be altered, perhaps? 
    🎉 MORTGAGE FREE (First time!) 30/09/2016 🎉 And now we go again…New mortgage taken 01/09/23 🏡
    Balance as at 01/09/23 = £115,000.00 Balance as at 31/12/23 = £112,000.00
    Balance as at 31/08/24 = £105,400.00 Balance as at 31/12/24 = £102,500.00
    SOA CALCULATOR (for DFW newbies): SOA Calculator
    she/her
  • Robin9
    Robin9 Posts: 12,512 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I really don't think control of the heating is what they are employed to do.  As has been said a programable thermostat.  AHive or Nest would enable you to control it from your own home.
    Never pay on an estimated bill. Always read and understand your bill
  • tim_p
    tim_p Posts: 846 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 500 Posts Name Dropper
    Robin9 said:
    I really don't think control of the heating is what they are employed to do.  As has been said a programable thermostat.  AHive or Nest would enable you to control it from your own home.
    If they are live in carers then it would explain the massive bill as they aren’t going to be cold if someone else is paying. 
  • MWT
    MWT Posts: 9,709 Forumite
    Fifth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    tim_p said:
    Robin9 said:
    I really don't think control of the heating is what they are employed to do.  As has been said a programable thermostat.  AHive or Nest would enable you to control it from your own home.
    If they are live in carers then it would explain the massive bill as they aren’t going to be cold if someone else is paying. 
    ... or they may view the temperature as necessary for the proper care and well-being of their client...

  • MWT said:
    tim_p said:
    Robin9 said:
    I really don't think control of the heating is what they are employed to do.  As has been said a programable thermostat.  AHive or Nest would enable you to control it from your own home.
    If they are live in carers then it would explain the massive bill as they aren’t going to be cold if someone else is paying. 
    ... or they may view the temperature as necessary for the proper care and well-being of their client...

    This was what I was wondering. We’re not aware of the OP’s son’s condition, but if it is something that means he’s in one place for a lot of the time there could reasonably be concerns there.
    🎉 MORTGAGE FREE (First time!) 30/09/2016 🎉 And now we go again…New mortgage taken 01/09/23 🏡
    Balance as at 01/09/23 = £115,000.00 Balance as at 31/12/23 = £112,000.00
    Balance as at 31/08/24 = £105,400.00 Balance as at 31/12/24 = £102,500.00
    SOA CALCULATOR (for DFW newbies): SOA Calculator
    she/her
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 348.6K Banking & Borrowing
  • 252.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 452.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 241.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 617.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 175.8K Life & Family
  • 254.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 15.1K Coronavirus Support Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.