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How to live without heating - save £000s
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theoretica said:It is your extrapolation from what works for you to that also working for other people, especially those sufficiently vulnerable to die from lack of heating that is offensive. Blaming people for dying because they are too stupid to wear proper clothes?If you had presented it as a personal choice that your own situation allowed you to make that would be less outrageous.5
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HertsLad said:All I can suggest is that others try it, to see if it works for them, rather than be deterred by the doubters and sceptics.And congratulations for trying it, and finding that it works for you.You're right that umpteen previous generations will have lived like this and humanity survived. But (as has been mentioned in several previous replies) there are a relatively large number of people alive now who wouldn't cope - many of them older and/or with chronic illnesses.Best not to assume it will work for everyone.N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!3 -
QrizB said:You're right that umpteen previous generations will have lived like this and humanity survived.The post does raise interesting points, but when you think about it, we've been gathering around a fire for warmth pretty much as long as we've had fire, since that point onwards hardly any generations have tried to live without additional heat sources be it wood, coal, buffalo chips etc. ...The carbon zero version of this, without burning anything at all, is a somewhat new direction for humanity...
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QrizB said:Best not to assume it will work for everyone.-1
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Just thinking - I'm guessing the last time people lived without heating was in the Stone Age? Or had they discovered fire already?#2 Saving for Christmas 2024 - £1 a day challenge. £325 of £3660
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JGB1955 said:Just thinking - I'm guessing the last time people lived without heating was in the Stone Age? Or had they discovered fire already?Apparently homo discovered fire before we were homo sapiens, around 2M years ago:It's longer than I thought, to be honest.N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!0 -
MWT said:QrizB said:You're right that umpteen previous generations will have lived like this and humanity survived.The post does raise interesting points, but when you think about it, we've been gathering around a fire for warmth pretty much as long as we've had fire, since that point onwards hardly any generations have tried to live without additional heat sources be it wood, coal, buffalo chips etc. ...The carbon zero version of this, without burning anything at all, is a somewhat new direction for humanity...5
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I think running the boiler and heating the house to 12C-15C is a much more civilised compromise that shouldn't cost that much. I'm sitting here right now at 18C with a thick fleece on and my feet inside my electric foot warmer. I've sat at 16C for long periods of time but my hands start to go cold and need my woolly hat below that.2
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I've decided to adjust my thermostat, I used £78 of gas on my last bill
8.30 - 17.30 = 16c
17.30 - 21.30 = 19c
21.30 - 8.30 = 14c
House is occupied all day.
See what it saves me as I had heat set to 16c overnight so on cold days the heating was starting to come on about 5am and 18c between 8.30 and 10.004.29kWp Solar system, 45/55 South/West split in cloudy rainy Cumbria.0 -
Rosa_Damascena said: but I also worry that in your mid-60s you may be so used to being cold that you won't recognise hypothermia when it hits.Hypothermia can set in when the air temperature is at 10°C, and it is not a nice thing to suffer from - It can (and does) kill.You also need to bear in mind, a cold house will be prone to condensation & mold. If the timbers inside the house become damp, there is a very good chance than rot will set in along with an infestation of woodworm. So what you save on heating will be eaten up having to pay for repairs.Her courage will change the world.
Treasure the moments that you have. Savour them for as long as you can for they will never come back again.5
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