Realistic flame effect - electric stove

Bendy_House

bob_a_builder said:

No false flames of course, but does give a pulsating glow 

Bulb
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401556944039?epid=22020767793

Example
https://photos.app.goo.gl/eeE6oWxJnwoHcjHY7

Is that yours in the 'example', Bob?

Clearly huge potential there. I wonder what two of these lamps would be like in there - it might give more of a random flicker effect? You can control its light output by piling more logs on them! (Including pre-scorched ones...)

Many stoves have an ash drawer with a separate door - ideal place to take in a cable, well sleeved and protected. Or, just drill a hole through the stoves bottom, and add a grommet.

bob_a_builder

err - Guilty as charged !

Yes - plenty of way to improve / adjust to get the desired effect, as you have suggested

really need some sort of orange 'plastic' film or similar over the lamp to diffuse it a bit, which I haven't done (yet) 
Maybe some crinkled foil in the base to reflect a bit more 

Bendy_House

I thought it worked really well - a good level of light, and a nice warm, glowing-fire tone. My only issue with it was that the flame 'effect' - the adjusting light levels - were not like flame 'flicker', so I wonder if two lamps would help that, giving it a faster and more random effect?

Wes121708

@Bendy_House it's more blue when it's warming up and going out. It doesn't beat a real log burner but it's the nearest we'll get. 
The glass gets grubby like a real burner would get from flames but my husband cleaned it the other day which I've told him to not do again!

bob_a_builder

Bendy_House said:

I thought it worked really well - a good level of light, and a nice warm, glowing-fire tone. My only issue with it was that the flame 'effect' - the adjusting light levels - were not like flame 'flicker', so I wonder if two lamps would help that, giving it a faster and more random effect?

Yes - it could be a bit more random, not got round to trying 2 bulbs yet, do have another one around somewhere 

Prior to this I had a circuit I built from a electronics magazine back in the 80's (1987 !)  - which was based on a (psuedo) random number generator, but the thyristor needed replacing a couple of times but since it had been running for 30 odd years, didn't do too bad 
But thought I give the LED flame bulbs a go

bit of history - old circuit from 1987 - ETI magazine
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f6x9wOxCmt2yHkkNuzh8hpoh2BRQZDSd/view?usp=sharing

FreeBear

Bendy_House said: You can't beat a real flame, but is the bio's always that clean and white/blue?

If white/blue is not your thing, bung some salts in to give it a different colour. Borax or copper sulphate for a green flame, potassium chloride for purple.

Bendy_House

Wes121708 said:

@Bendy_House it's more blue when it's warming up and going out. It doesn't beat a real log burner but it's the nearest we'll get. 
The glass gets grubby like a real burner would get from flames but my husband cleaned it the other day which I've told him to not do again!

That is just brilliant

As, I'm sure, is the finish on the glass.

Bendy_House

bob_a_builder said:

Bendy_House said:

I thought it worked really well - a good level of light, and a nice warm, glowing-fire tone. My only issue with it was that the flame 'effect' - the adjusting light levels - were not like flame 'flicker', so I wonder if two lamps would help that, giving it a faster and more random effect?

Yes - it could be a bit more random, not got round to trying 2 bulbs yet, do have another one around somewhere 

Prior to this I had a circuit I built from a electronics magazine back in the 80's (1987 !)  - which was based on a (psuedo) random number generator, but the thyristor needed replacing a couple of times but since it had been running for 30 odd years, didn't do too bad 
But thought I give the LED flame bulbs a go

bit of history - old circuit from 1987 - ETI magazine
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f6x9wOxCmt2yHkkNuzh8hpoh2BRQZDSd/view?usp=sharing

Electronics Today Int! This forum just gets better and better :-)

FreeBear

bob_a_builder said: Prior to this I had a circuit I built from a electronics magazine back in the 80's (1987 !)  - which was based on a (psuedo) random number generator, but the thyristor needed replacing a couple of times but since it had been running for 30 odd years, didn't do too bad 
But thought I give the LED flame bulbs a go

bit of history - old circuit from 1987 - ETI magazine
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f6x9wOxCmt2yHkkNuzh8hpoh2BRQZDSd/view?usp=sharing

Today, I'd use an ESP32 and have wifi control.. Found some ESP32 dev boards on ebay that have a built in 240V supply, so no messing around trying to find a mains adaptor.

bob_a_builder

Bendy_House said:

I thought it worked really well - a good level of light, and a nice warm, glowing-fire tone. My only issue with it was that the flame 'effect' - the adjusting light levels - were not like flame 'flicker', so I wonder if two lamps would help that, giving it a faster and more random effect?

Upgraded to 2 lamps now ...

both videos here
https://photos.app.goo.gl/eeE6oWxJnwoHcjHY7