CST law letter - reminder notice

cstscam

I’ve just received this letter from CST law after ignoring 3/4 letters from DRP and CP plus. I keep being advised to ignore but this is just causing me anxiety now... is it best to just pay it? I know there’s a million responses provided to this question already but there are conflicting answers everywhere and I just don’t know what to do.

Trainerman

Looks like a debt collector letter to me. I would not worry about it

D_P_Dance

It is a DCA leter and they have added what appears to be an extra unlawful amount for debt collection. This amounts to double recovery and Judges all over the country are dismissing these spurious additions. Indeed some judges have dismissed entire claims because of this. Read this and complain to Trading Standards and your MP,

Excel v Wilkinson

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V%20Excel%20v%20Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0

However, VCS appealed this so it may not apply in all cases, read this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ntksx9g7177ahyg/VCS v Percy v1 Amendments (2).pdf?dl=0Also read this

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6279348/witness-statements-2-transcripts-re-parking-firms-false-costs-recorder-cohen-qc-judgment-2021/p1

Also consider complaining to The SRA about the solicitor, if one is involved They are fully aware of the unlawful nature of most of thse additions yet persist in adding them..

https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/problems/

They have added what appears to be an extra unlawful amount for debt collection. This amounts to double recovery and Judges all over the country are dismissing these spurious additions. Indeed some judges have dismissed entire claims because of this. Read this and complain to Trading Standards and your MP,

Excel v Wilkinson

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V%20Excel%20v%20Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0

However, VCS appealed this so it may not apply in all cases, read this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ntksx9g7177ahyg/VCS v Percy v1 Amendments (2).pdf?dl=0Also read this

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6279348/witness-statements-2-transcripts-re-parking-firms-false-costs-recorder-cohen-qc-judgment-2021/p1

Also consider complaining to The SRA about the solicitor, if one is involved They are fully aware of the unlawful nature of most of thse additions yet persist in adding them..

https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/problems/

cstscam

Trainerman said:

Looks like a debt collector letter to me. I would not worry about it

Thanks. But I’ve seen a few people get letters before claim after this and I don’t want to risk that. 

cstscam

“D_P_Dance said:

It is a DCA leter and they have added what appears to be an extra unlawful amount for debt collection. This amounts to double recovery and Judges all over the country are dismissing these spurious additions. Indeed some judges have dismissed entire claims because of this. Read this and complain to Trading Standards and your MP....”

Thank you for this! Is it worth me replying to that letter and telling them I’m reporting them? Will that stop them harassing me or will they carry on? I believe they can now take you to court so I don’t want to risk that even if I can defend it. I would rather avoid that and definitely don’t want a CCJ

Trainerman

cstscam said:

Trainerman said:

Looks like a debt collector letter to me. I would not worry about it

Thanks. But I’ve seen a few people get letters before claim after this and I don’t want to risk that. 

I think we may be talking at cross purposes. I think ....and @D_P_Dance seems to concur .....that it is just another debt collector piece of rubbish. As far as I know any LBC will have been preceded by some of these, so I do not see the problem. Either you will eventually end up with a MCOL claim or you won't, but this is not it.

nicestrawb

It's inevitable that you will get a letter before claim at some point as that's their last ditch attempt at scaring you into paying. It doesn't necessarily mean they will follow it up with court action but they might.
I got 2 LBC's for the same event and eventually it was cancelled before anything happened. If you do get one, just follow the advice on this forum. Ultimately you will still have the chance to put the case on hold while you assess all the evidence and then decide if you want to pay up or fight it.

Considering that a loss in court is likely to cost you no more than paying up though, it's a no brainer imo.

D_P_Dance

It is always worth reporting a solicitor even when they aee acting as a debt collector.  Such actions are lokely to bring their profession into disrepute.

One of thesw lagal firms is being investigated by the SRA and others might follow.

Umkomaas

cstscam said:

Trainerman said:

Looks like a debt collector letter to me. I would not worry about it

Thanks. But I’ve seen a few people get letters before claim after this and I don’t want to risk that. 

Glad to see you've opened a thread for your parking charge problem. 

The only way to stop a LBC is to either get a landowner cancellation, or feed the monster all they are attempting to extort.  There really isn't a magic bullet. They've dragged you into their game - you just have to continuing playing it until they, or a Judge, tell you it's 'Game Over'. 

patient_dream

cstscam said:

I’ve just received this letter from CST law after ignoring 3/4 letters from DRP and CP plus. I keep being advised to ignore but this is just causing me anxiety now... is it best to just pay it? I know there’s a million responses provided to this question already but there are conflicting answers everywhere and I just don’t know what to do.

CST LAW are up to their party tricks again.

They say they are instructed by DRP ?????   TOTAL UTTER RUBBISH, only the PPC can instruct the legal and it's not normally CST LAW.

The debt if there is one, is owned by CP PLUS and NOT DRP .... serial jokers at work again

Have a look at what CST get up to, it really is not very clever

CST letters' forum group thread

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6166004/cst-letters-forum-group-thread/p1

and ..... you don't owe £170, that's just CST scamming you, nobody deals with scammers

Coupon-mad

cstscam said:

Trainerman said:

Looks like a debt collector letter to me. I would not worry about it

Thanks. But I’ve seen a few people get letters before claim after this and I don’t want to risk that. 

Why do you think a LBC is a risk?  You don't just 'get' a CCJ.  There is no risk, what are you imagining?

there are conflicting answers everywhere 

Where, please?  Our advice is consistent.  I think you are wrongly assuming that a LBC or court claim might damage your credit or that it risks court costs.  Not true. There is nothing to worry about and no risk.

You need to read more, and watch the 'Parking Con?' TV show that me and bargepole were on last week (Channel 5 catch up).