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  • FaceHead
    FaceHead Posts: 737 Forumite
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    A really shoddy consumer unit. 

    The kitchen appliances on a 16A (?radial), the lack of spare MCBs, lack of labeling of the circuits. Who knows what other corners are cut in the wiring of the house, when what we can see is completely shocking.

    Perhaps that circuit is also the upstairs sockets and has been brought down into the kitchen, which is why putting more loads upstairs can tip it over. 

    Are there any other circuits (e.g. the kitchen sockets) nearby that one of the appliances could be moved to. 

    Basically a 16A circuit just isn't fit for what's on it. An electrician would probably want to turn it into a 32A ring, but that probably would mean ripping up walls, floors etc. 

    It's either live with, or embark on a partial rewire, and associated redecoration. 
  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 24,602 Forumite
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    Section62 said:
    Le_Kirk said:
    Section62 said:
    Le_Kirk said:
    What is written on the breaker that trips?  Presumably it is a ring main into which are wired the washing machine, tumble drier and the boiler and some other sockets.
    "B16" - which means something is wrong with the installation.
    It needs an electrician to investigate further.
    No, I meant the label that the installer should write on to tell the homeowner which circuit it is protecting!
    There's no identifying labels/writing on any of them (bar the standard labelling of the main switch/RCD).
    That's a shame (as well as being shoddy workmanship) as it might have led the OP and the forum towards a possible reason/solution.
  • Section62
    Section62 Posts: 9,866 Forumite
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    edited 17 December 2021 at 4:11PM
    Le_Kirk said:
    Section62 said:
    Le_Kirk said:
    Section62 said:
    Le_Kirk said:
    What is written on the breaker that trips?  Presumably it is a ring main into which are wired the washing machine, tumble drier and the boiler and some other sockets.
    "B16" - which means something is wrong with the installation.
    It needs an electrician to investigate further.
    No, I meant the label that the installer should write on to tell the homeowner which circuit it is protecting!
    There's no identifying labels/writing on any of them (bar the standard labelling of the main switch/RCD).
    That's a shame (as well as being shoddy workmanship) as it might have led the OP and the forum towards a possible reason/solution.
    That's why I said "It needs an electrician to investigate further."
    There's too many warning signs (some of them outlined in FaceHead's post preceeding yours) for this to be a safe job for the OP to investigate on their own with/without helpful advice from this forum.
    Which is also why speculation about what circuits do what, and how it could be altered, aren't really good advice... it just needs leaving to a professional with the right experience, training and equipment to investigate and work out the best solution. (IMV)
  • fenwick458
    fenwick458 Posts: 1,522 Forumite
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    is it just the MCB thats tripping and not the RCD? those sorts of faults are easy to find (for an electrician)

    what is the extent of the circuit(that is tripping, the B16), how many sockets, how many appliances, is the hot water tap you are refereeing to an Quooker or similar device or is it jut a regular hot tap ran from a combi etc...?
  • I need to get my eyes sorted as I read the tripped circuit as a 40A breaker 
  • Section62
    Section62 Posts: 9,866 Forumite
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    lesalanos said:
    I need to get my eyes sorted as I read the tripped circuit as a 40A breaker 
    Explained in the OP's post....
    LunaD said:

    The photo shows one switch is down, it’s not that one that always goes down it’s the one to the right of it that switches down when the electric trips off. That one is always down as it’s unused
    ...another reason why the installation needs checking over by a professional.
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