UKPS LTD Waterside Inn

HappyPotter

Hi, 
We are looking for advice on a PCN at a Pub.
Parked up for 11 minutes intending to use the pub with kids. Parking notices say register vehicle on the tablet in the pub. By the time the website was found which implied it was open and then called the pub, as well as dealing kids in the back it was decided to leave as the car park. 11 minutes had elapsed. We then received the PCN the following week for a fine of £100. It was appealed with them directly and also with the IAS. Both turned down obviously. The operator has the name of the driver and registered owner as this made up part of the appeals.

We have emailed the info@ address of the pub. No response.
We now assume we are waiting for a County court appearance.
We have also written to our own MP and the MP of the constituency in which the pub resides.

We are happy to take this all the way.

How can the operator charge a fine for not doing something which is physically impossible to do i.e. enter vehicle registration on the pub tablet.  The operator asserts that a contract has been created by entering the car park. Surely there is a frustration of contract angle here if it assumed that a contract does actually exist.

I can post the appeals and responses if required for any legally minded here.

Thank you.

Umkomaas

How can the operator charge a fine for not doing something which is physically impossible to do i.e. enter vehicle registration on the pub tablet.  The operator asserts that a contract has been created by entering the car park. Surely there is a frustration of contract angle here if it assumed that a contract does actually exist.

That's something you will need to have a Judge decide on. 

I don't recognise the PPC in your thread header. Can you put that right, and if it is (as I guess) UKPS, can you confirm exactly which one it is - there are two using the same initialisation, but entirely different entities, to my knowledge. 

HappyPotter

UKPS LTD, sorry for typo. Don’t know how to credit thread title.

Umkomaas

HappyPotter said:

UKPS LTD, sorry for typo. Don’t know how to credit thread title.

You might need to PM/email the MSE Forum Team. 

I asked you to clarify which of the two UKPS parking firms is involved.  Please check both out on the following page from the IPC AOS list.

https://theipc.info/aos-members/u

HappyPotter

Theukps.com

This one.
I have reposted a new thread with the correct title. Apologies.

Umkomaas

HappyPotter said:

Theukps.com

This one.
I have reposted a new thread with the correct title. Apologies.

So this one!  Full title:

UKPS Limited  (Trading As UKPS Limited)

HappyPotter

That’s it. 

Iceweasel

There are several Waterside Inns in the UK - several in Scotland - so in which part of the UK did this happen?

HappyPotter

Iceweasel said:

There are several Waterside Inns in the UK - several in Scotland - so in which part of the UK did this happen?

Leamington Spa.

HappyPotter

Just received the next stage of the saga by letter. From Debt Recovery Plus.
Demanding £160 now. My intention is to call and inform them that we will not be paying, give them the evidence that it was physically impossible to conform with the parking notices due to the venue being closed (wife left the car park after 11 minutes after dealing with children in the back and also seeing the parking notices). They will then be aware that we will not be paying and intend to see them in the claims court. 

Any further tips from anyone?

FrankCannon

1). NEVER phone any of the companies involved in this scam.
2). Ignore communications from powerless debt recovery companies.