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  • fjh
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    I found when I was using Excel to chart the change in my blood pressure over several months following alteration to my medication that it was better to have separate charts for the systolic and diastolic readings with the y-axis (pressure) tailored to the lowest and highest readings so that the lines didn't look close to flat.
    Unless the prices of all of your shares are similar and have a similar degree of variation over time I think trying to show all 15 in one chart will make it difficult to see what's really happened to many of them. While it might be more effort to create separate charts I think it will give you a more meaningful picture of performance for each share.
    Thanks , understand what you say.
    I was trying to use line graph to help review each of 15 holdings for year 1 , then separate chart year 3 and again year 5.
    I understand now I need ‘time’ so will revert to a bar chart.
    appreciate all help.
  • k_man
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    edited 9 May 2024 at 11:42AM
    k_man said:
    The 'best' you could get is a graph with data at:
    5 years ago
    3 years ago*
    1 year ago*
    Current

    Or years
    0
    2
    4
    5

    With no view of what happened between

    e.g.



    * data calculated backwards from 5 year and 3/1 year returns
    Not quite, the data set doesn't actually say what the return was at the 3 year or 5 year mark in the past - it is the annualised return over that period an therefore gives the average return over the past 3 or 5 years which is not the same as a saying what the actual return was 3 or 5 years ago.
    Doh - missed the annualised bit!
  • k_man
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    After some thought, I think we do know what the value was 5, 3 and 1 year(s) ago.

    The maths is a little more complex (annualised is not the same as average).

    Total return = annualised return ^ number of years

    Back to the spreadsheet.
  • getmore4less
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    k_man said:
    After some thought, I think we do know what the value was 5, 3 and 1 year(s) ago.

    The maths is a little more complex (annualised is not the same as average).

    Total return = annualised return ^ number of years

    Back to the spreadsheet.
    For traded stock you can look up the closing daily value and download all the data you need for years

    there are other places, 
    I have used HL for spot checks(probate valuations)
    https://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/s/sainsbury-j-plc-ordinary-28,47p/dividends

    and yahoo as a Xcheck and download.
    https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SBRY.L/history?p=SBRY.L


    One key with data analysis start with the best source data you can get.
    Then think about what it is you want to do with that and understand what that may tell you.

    For stocks there is already a lot of work done and offered up for free all over the web.





  • k_man
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    I agree completely.
    Don't start with this data. The summary annualised returns are based on actual data. Review that instead.

    To be honest, this was more a spreadsheet and maths challenge. (I am not the OP btw)
  • fjh
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    Thanks - The actual holdings are not traded stocks- rather investments within SIPP  e.g Vanguard , Prudential , fidelity .-  -I was looking to review % growth / loss for 1 year then a separate chart year 2 & then year 3- following feedback .I am now  aware that the chart I was looking to emulate-Trustnet- copy below has 1/4ly dated info which I cannot access / be too time consuming to gather so will now use bar chart instead :/


  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    Don't funds within a SIPP have daily valuations?
  • fjh
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    Don't funds within a SIPP have daily valuations?
    One of the SIPP proverbs only shows MI on the day- impossible to view back- I will move forward now and use bar chart -
    Again thanks for all help/input
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    fjh said:
    Don't funds within a SIPP have daily valuations?
    One of the SIPP proverbs only shows MI on the day- impossible to view back- I will move forward now and use bar chart -
    Again thanks for all help/input
    If the underlying funds are traded then they should be on places like yahoo just need to find the right symbols.
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