unpaid PCN, court hearing letter - case CLOSED

kokolino23

Redx said:

kokolino23 said:

@Umkomaas

@KeithP

@D_P_Dance

@Le_Kirk

@Redx

Thank you very much for your advice and replies

I've sent the PPC a SAR by email, their solicitor doesn't have a contact email addres on their website (no suprise) but I've done it through their Defendant Response form and took a print screen shot showing the date.

I will fill an AoS tomorrow or Monday and keep you updated.

What have you sent to their solicitor ?

There is nothing to send to them , yet !!

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.

(b) I have sent your client a SAR

The above is what I sent them, as advised on the Newbies thread.

Fruitcake

I suggest you delete that link and block the website. It contains so many errors and bad advice I would hate to think a motorist might actually follow it. The "official" MSE parking advice is not much better. 
Better yet, delete that whole post.

CAB are very good at some things, but are clueless when it comes to the unregulated private parking industry.

Follow the advice from the regulars on this forum, and you will get the best and most up to date information there is available.

Fruitcake

kokolino23 said:

Redx said:

kokolino23 said:

@Umkomaas

@KeithP

@D_P_Dance

@Le_Kirk

@Redx

Thank you very much for your advice and replies

I've sent the PPC a SAR by email, their solicitor doesn't have a contact email addres on their website (no suprise) but I've done it through their Defendant Response form and took a print screen shot showing the date.

I will fill an AoS tomorrow or Monday and keep you updated.

What have you sent to their solicitor ?

There is nothing to send to them , yet !!

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.

(b) I have sent your client a SAR

The above is what I sent them, as advised on the Newbies thread.

You have misunderstood.

This only applies at the LBC/LoC stage.

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.

It is too late to ask for the claim to be put on hold because you are seeking debt advice once a claim has been issued.

kokolino23

Fruitcake said:

kokolino23 said:

Redx said:

kokolino23 said:

@Umkomaas

@KeithP

@D_P_Dance

@Le_Kirk

@Redx

Thank you very much for your advice and replies

I've sent the PPC a SAR by email, their solicitor doesn't have a contact email addres on their website (no suprise) but I've done it through their Defendant Response form and took a print screen shot showing the date.

I will fill an AoS tomorrow or Monday and keep you updated.

What have you sent to their solicitor ?

There is nothing to send to them , yet !!

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.

(b) I have sent your client a SAR

The above is what I sent them, as advised on the Newbies thread.

You have misunderstood.

This only applies at the LBC/LoC stage.

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.

It is too late to ask for the claim to be put on hold because you are seeking debt advice once a claim has been issued.

I went through it again and says to send them an email as well, which I did.
I get your point and agree with it, someone should change that post then.
Too late for me now, I don't think will have any impact on my case anyway. 

Coupon-mad

I will try to remember to edit it next time I edit the NEWBIES thread, which of course I will be a lot, in 2022 when the new statutory appeals and Code rules come in!  Everything changes then!

Redx

kokolino23 said:

Fruitcake said:

kokolino23 said:

Redx said:

kokolino23 said:

@Umkomaas

@KeithP

@D_P_Dance

@Le_Kirk

@Redx

Thank you very much for your advice and replies

I've sent the PPC a SAR by email, their solicitor doesn't have a contact email addres on their website (no suprise) but I've done it through their Defendant Response form and took a print screen shot showing the date.

I will fill an AoS tomorrow or Monday and keep you updated.

What have you sent to their solicitor ?

There is nothing to send to them , yet !!

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.

(b) I have sent your client a SAR

The above is what I sent them, as advised on the Newbies thread.

You have misunderstood.

This only applies at the LBC/LoC stage.

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.

It is too late to ask for the claim to be put on hold because you are seeking debt advice once a claim has been issued.

I went through it again and says to send them an email as well, which I did.
I get your point and agree with it, someone should change that post then.
Too late for me now, I don't think will have any impact on my case anyway. 

 Yes , at LBC stage , not Court claim stage !!

The SAR is being done now because it wasn't done at the LBC stage , meaning pre court

It's no Biggie , just unnecessary , it creates a panic when they reply with a refusal

kokolino23

Redx said:

kokolino23 said:

Fruitcake said:

kokolino23 said:

Redx said:

kokolino23 said:

@Umkomaas

@KeithP

@D_P_Dance

@Le_Kirk

@Redx

Thank you very much for your advice and replies

I've sent the PPC a SAR by email, their solicitor doesn't have a contact email addres on their website (no suprise) but I've done it through their Defendant Response form and took a print screen shot showing the date.

I will fill an AoS tomorrow or Monday and keep you updated.

What have you sent to their solicitor ?

There is nothing to send to them , yet !!

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.

(b) I have sent your client a SAR

The above is what I sent them, as advised on the Newbies thread.

You have misunderstood.

This only applies at the LBC/LoC stage.

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.

It is too late to ask for the claim to be put on hold because you are seeking debt advice once a claim has been issued.

I went through it again and says to send them an email as well, which I did.
I get your point and agree with it, someone should change that post then.
Too late for me now, I don't think will have any impact on my case anyway. 

 Yes , at LBC stage , not Court claim stage !!

The SAR is being done now because it wasn't done at the LBC stage , meaning pre court

It's no Biggie , just unnecessary , it creates a panic when they reply with a refusal

Post 2 says
Pre-action stage:
If you have a 'Letter of claim' or Letter Before Claim (LBC), a claim IS likely. I mean a 'real' LBC with a 30 day deadline and reply forms.

I misunderstood that bit LBC v Court claim.
I thought mine is LBC (because I am not invited to the Court yet) because has reply forms and a deadline.
In actual fact the claim has been made already.

Redx

kokolino23 said:

Redx said:

kokolino23 said:

Fruitcake said:

kokolino23 said:

Redx said:

kokolino23 said:

@Umkomaas

@KeithP

@D_P_Dance

@Le_Kirk

@Redx

Thank you very much for your advice and replies

I've sent the PPC a SAR by email, their solicitor doesn't have a contact email addres on their website (no suprise) but I've done it through their Defendant Response form and took a print screen shot showing the date.

I will fill an AoS tomorrow or Monday and keep you updated.

What have you sent to their solicitor ?

There is nothing to send to them , yet !!

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.

(b) I have sent your client a SAR

The above is what I sent them, as advised on the Newbies thread.

You have misunderstood.

This only applies at the LBC/LoC stage.

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's DPO, also write another email, if they are using Gladstones, DCLegal, BW Legal or other solicitor.
Your email tells the solicitor:
(a) I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017.

It is too late to ask for the claim to be put on hold because you are seeking debt advice once a claim has been issued.

I went through it again and says to send them an email as well, which I did.
I get your point and agree with it, someone should change that post then.
Too late for me now, I don't think will have any impact on my case anyway. 

 Yes , at LBC stage , not Court claim stage !!

The SAR is being done now because it wasn't done at the LBC stage , meaning pre court

It's no Biggie , just unnecessary , it creates a panic when they reply with a refusal

Post 2 says
Pre-action stage:
If you have a 'Letter of claim' or Letter Before Claim (LBC), a claim IS likely. I mean a 'real' LBC with a 30 day deadline and reply forms.

I misunderstood that bit LBC v Court claim.
I thought mine is LBC (because I am not invited to the Court yet) because has reply forms and a deadline.
In actual fact the claim has been made already.

Yours is CCC , County court claim , the SAR can be done anytime and not related to the claim but the reply may be helpful in the future in regards to defending your claim , so we ask people to get it done ASAP so they don't forget ( but it should have been done before the N1 pack from the CCBC in Northampton arrived )

The acronym explanations in the fifth post also say LBCCC , Letter before county court claim , your N1 pack is the actual CCC , not the letter before.

A CCC will come from either the CCBC in Northampton ( usually ) or unusually from the CCMCC in Salford ( in rare cases ), neither will issue. loC , or LBC , or LBCCC ! A claimant or their lawyers cannot issue a CCC , it yet come from an approved government office

An LBC will come from a claimant or their lawyers , not from a government office !

Once a Claim is issued by the government office , the clock is ticking and in principle it will not be placed on hold , so your request will be seen as naivity and mark you as easy uninformed prey , plus you will receive a rejection and be put to more stress as to why , which deflects you from the real work. From what you should be doing ( which is not reading incorrect rubbish on other websites that mislead people and use incorrect wording )

Ie , your defence !  The AOS and defence is the stage you are at , not any other stage ( but the odd additional task like the SAR when you have a spare ten minutes could be worthwhile )

Your AOS has been done , tick 

Your SAR has been done , tick

Your Defence has not been done , no tick

No research of other websites is required , your adapted paragraphs 2 and 3 are required , for critique , so post them below , stop working on anything unnecessary , no more mistakes

kokolino23

Yours is CCC , County court claim , the SAR can be done anytime and not related to the claim but the reply may be helpful in the future in regards to defending your claim , so we ask people to get it done ASAP so they don't forget ( but it should have been done before the N1 pack from the CCBC in Northampton arrived )

The acronym explanations in the fifth post also say LBCCC , Letter before county court claim , your N1 pack is the actual CCC , not the letter before.

A CCC will come from either the CCBC in Northampton ( usually ) or unusually from the CCMCC in Salford ( in rare cases ), neither will issue. loC , or LBC , or LBCCC ! A claimant or their lawyers cannot issue a CCC , it yet come from an approved government office

An LBC will come from a claimant or their lawyers , not from a government office !

Once a Claim is issued by the government office , the clock is ticking and in principle it will not be placed on hold , so your request will be seen as naivity and mark you as easy uninformed prey , plus you will receive a rejection and be put to more stress as to why , which deflects you from the real work. From what you should be doing ( which is not reading incorrect rubbish on other websites that mislead people and use incorrect wording )

Ie , your defence !  The AOS and defence is the stage you are at , not any other stage ( but the odd additional task like the SAR when you have a spare ten minutes could be worthwhile )

Your AOS has been done , tick 

Your SAR has been done , tick

Your Defence has not been done , no tick

No research of other websites is required , your adapted paragraphs 2 and 3 are required , for critique , so post them below , stop working on anything unnecessary , no more mistakes

First of all, many thanks for your help.

I came here and asked for help as I've been a member on this website and forum for a long time so I do appreciate it a lot.

I misunderstood the advice given in the newbies as I'm not familiar with the terminology, I went through it once more so I can follow it correctly.

Only SAR has been done so far, I doubt they will answer in time but I can only hope for that now. I should've sent them an email when I had the Letter of Claim, more than a month ago.

I haven't done the AOS yet, I'll do it today or tomorrow.

As far as I know I've got enough time for my Defence but would be helpful to get a SAR response in the meantime.

@Redx, what do you mean by paragraphs 2 and 3, please?

Thank you very much indeed once again.

Le_Kirk

The results of your SAR - your data - will be more useful at witness statement time.  Paragraphs 2 & 3 refer to the two paragraphs from the standard defence template that you will modify and show us that suit your particular circumstances.