Adding a wc upstairs

I'm just pondering and bearing in mind I'm a clueless ftb it's very much that. I'm buying a mid terrace with a bathroom downstairs. I'm wondering if anyone could hazard a guess at what it would cost to add a small wc into one of the baxk bedrooms. It would be straight ahead as you leave the hall and a new door would have to be added into the bedroom too. There wouldn't be a window nor a need to add one in the wc the wc would be on the same side of the back of the house as the bathroom if that makes any difference. We're in Gloucestershire if that makes any difference to trade prices. Thanks if anyone replies
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  • I'm just pondering and bearing in mind I'm a clueless ftb it's very much that. I'm buying a mid terrace with a bathroom downstairs. I'm wondering if anyone could hazard a guess at what it would cost to add a small wc into one of the baxk bedrooms. It would be straight ahead as you leave the hall and a new door would have to be added into the bedroom too. There wouldn't be a window nor a need to add one in the wc the wc would be on the same side of the back of the house as the bathroom if that makes any difference. We're in Gloucestershire if that makes any difference to trade prices. Thanks if anyone replies
    It does make a difference, as it needs to use the soil stack. If it can be connected up then great. You could get one of those sunlight tunnel things to light it. I would budget at least £2k and be pleasantly surprised if you get change from it.
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  • NSG666
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    If you can post the existing / proposed floor plans it might help.
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  • GDB2222
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    If the new toilet cannot be plumbed into the existing soil stack, you can get a Saniflo macerator/pump. They can be trouble. They are noisy. It would add roughly £1k to the cost. 
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    You'd want an extractor fan but sounds like you have an outside wall.

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  • Thanks for all of  your responses. The wc wouldn't be on a back wall. it is in the back part of the house. Sorry for any confusion. Right please excuse my crude markings on this image haha. The markings in green are the downstairs bathroom which is a newish extension and then a rough idea of how the bedrooms are seperated by 2 steps into the extension of the house. the extension was Built in the 80s. The blue box that barely resembles a box in the bedroom was where i was thinking of a wc. 2k or there abouts was what i was hoping for. The special pump i would consider. As it would be worth the extra to have a toilet upstairs, but the noise would be a factor as it's next to 2 childrens rooms. 
     
  • I can understand why you want to but I don't think its a great idea. I can see why the place was extended but you are left with 2 long thin rooms. I'd be tempted to fit a full shower room (en-suite) into the larger one and a window into the side wall. Or better still, Jack and Jill to be shared between the two.
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  • It's a mid terrace so I wouldn't be able to put one onto the side with a window. Thank you for your suggestion though. I though it might be a bit of a reach. 😁
  • Mojisola
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    The special pump i would consider. As it would be worth the extra to have a toilet upstairs, but the noise would be a factor as it's next to 2 childrens rooms. 
     
    And, as it's on the wall with your neighbours, it could lead to a permanent bad relationship with them because of the noise. 
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    i think that it would be worth it to the house value to put the shower room/bath upstairs. 

    If you steal 1.7metres from Bed 2, you have a perfect British bathroom.  It reduces both bedrooms but bed 2 stays a reasonable double and bed 3, whilst becoming smaller again to about 1.9 by 3metres, it frees up space for a 2 metres wall of built in storage on the landing, some of which could be dedicated to the owner of bed 3. 

    The shower room downstairs becomes a 'proper' loo and you open up your kitchen into more space and light coming through.

    i think it would improve the value of almost any house like this, in almost any area that has even slightly below average house prices.   

    Whether the new bathroom
    can run directly to a 4 inch waste pipe will
    depend on the location of the current SVP, but it isn't outside the realms of possibility.  I've also lived with a Saniflo for a long time and it really isn't the end of the world at all.    
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  • Rolandtheroadie
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    edited 5 December 2021 at 10:56AM
     If the wardrobe isn't a structural wall, I'd block that off and open up at the other bedroom. Shower in there, a bit into the bedroom, then go with Doozergirls plan partially. Sink/WC on the outside wall, tied into your current waste (I'm guessing it would be outside on the RHS wall?) and the shower in the wadrobe/into the room a little. 
     Bedroom door where DG has the toilet/sink leaving the other room untouched.
     Across the road has just done similar to get an en suite upstairs.  
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