PPC situation

ss123

@Coupon-mad
In the Newbies thread there is a helpful underlined text that reads: Here are some cases won or in progress which should help you with ideas as to what to put in as 'case specific facts' at #2 and #3 of the above linked template defence, if your case is not a ParkingEye one: 
but is the link missing?

Coupon-mad

No, it then shows some scenarios with links to things like residential defences if people can't work out for themselves how to word the facts..

ss123

Coupon-mad said:

No, it then shows some scenarios with links to things like residential defences if people can't work out for themselves how to word the facts..

ok thanks - just wondering if a link was broken!

ss123

Le_Kirk said:

You can submit a SAR to get everything they have on you.  You can write to BW Legal telling them, that whilst you deny any debt exists, you are seeking debt advice and they must put the claim on hold for 30 days in line with the pre-action protocol for debt claims.  In the meantime, you can read the NEWBIE sticky second post, including the link to how to complete the AoS (for when the claim form arrives) and research the standard defence template which you will need if/when the claim form drops on your door mat. One of your defence points will be that the PDT was not working correctly and failed to record your full VRM.

Hi @Le Kirk

Happy '22. Well BWL agreed to 30 days hold - more than a week after being emailed. I assume if they ask for an offer of repayment of the full balance, its a case of see you in court? 

ss123

Coupon-mad said:

No, it then shows some scenarios with links to things like residential defences if people can't work out for themselves how to word the facts..

Hi @Coupon-mad

Happy '22. I have updated the defence template with my specifics but then see there is another doc called a witness statement (where I see pointers to Cohen and Excel v Wilkinson etc). Confused as to what needs doing first - defence now for letter of claim then WS or both now or something else..?   

KeithP

ss123 said:

Coupon-mad said:

No, it then shows some scenarios with links to things like residential defences if people can't work out for themselves how to word the facts..

Happy '22. I have updated the defence template with my specifics but then see there is another doc called a witness statement (where I see pointers to Cohen and Excel v Wilkinson etc). Confused as to what needs doing first - defence now for letter of claim then WS or both now or something else..?   

The second post of the NEWBIES thread describes the process.

As you have yet to receive a County Court Claim, neither a Defence or Witness Statement are due.

Having said that, there is absolutely no harm in preparing oneself.
Read and re-read the second post of the NEWBIES thread.

Coupon-mad

Read @bargepole's court procedures thread that's always been there for newbies in the second post of the NEWBIES thread under the red heading 'Important - KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN'.

ss123

KeithP said:

ss123 said:

Coupon-mad said:

No, it then shows some scenarios with links to things like residential defences if people can't work out for themselves how to word the facts..

Happy '22. I have updated the defence template with my specifics but then see there is another doc called a witness statement (where I see pointers to Cohen and Excel v Wilkinson etc). Confused as to what needs doing first - defence now for letter of claim then WS or both now or something else..?   

The second post of the NEWBIES thread describes the process.

As you have yet to receive a County Court Claim, neither a Defence or Witness Statement are due.

Having said that, there is absolutely no harm in preparing oneself.
Read and re-read the second post of the NEWBIES thread.

Hi @KeithP, @ bargepole and

@Coupon-mad I saw that a Richard Cox (think that was part of their alias) lost a case and had to pay about another £200 on top of the PCN charge despite a well regarded WS etc - wondering if pressing on will be counterproductive. I think there may be 2 days or so left on the ‘stay’ . I can share draft points 2 & 3 here - is that a good idea?

Redx

Other cases in small claims hearings have no bearing on your case , your case is bespoke and probably in a different court with a different judge , so you or us have no way to predict the future regarding the outcome , stick to the here and now.

Even Man City have lost a game or more. But are top of the league ! So if Newcastle lose a game , does that mean city will lose next week ? No it doesn't ! I suppose that Swindon may as well just stay at home on Friday then ?? ( Meaning why bother , they may well lose anyway so could just give it a bye and save on the effort and planning ? )

You are currently at the impasse stage , so wait for a true logical development

If you anticipate that the CCBC will send out an N1 claim pack , then by all means start a defence draft and post the few early paragraphs below for critique , bearing in mind that you haven't yet seen the particulars of claim !

No harm in preparing , but no rush either !

Any witness statement plus exhibits plus summary costs assessment won't be required for several months, maybe early summer 2022 ?

Don't get paranoid , nothing significant has happened yet ! ( But do prepare )

ss123

Redx said:

Other cases in small claims hearings have no bearing on your case , your case is bespoke and probably in a different court with a different judge , so you or us have no way to predict the future regarding the outcome , stick to the here and now.

Even Man City have lost a game or more. But are top of the league ! So if Newcastle lose a game , does that mean city will lose next week ? No it doesn't ! I suppose that Swindon may as well just stay at home on Friday then ?? ( Meaning why bother , they may well lose anyway so could just give it a bye and save on the effort and planning ? )

You are currently at the impasse stage , so wait for a true logical development

If you anticipate that the CCBC will send out an N1 claim pack , then by all means start a defence draft and post the few early paragraphs below for critique , bearing in mind that you haven't yet seen the particulars of claim !

No harm in preparing , but no rush either !

Any witness statement plus exhibits plus summary costs assessment won't be required for several months, maybe early summer 2022 ?

Don't get paranoid , nothing significant has happened yet ! ( But do prepare )

 thanks @Redx - logical to wait for details of any claim - not had reply to SAR yet - but would an N1 claim negate other options - just don’t want the start of ‘22 to be spent ‘looking over my shoulder’ or interfere with holiday plans…