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Letter of condolence - Data protection issue?

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A relative of mine recently passed away - they were a big fan of a Premiership football club, as am I.   A month ago, I received a letter of condolence from the club signed by the manager - which was really lovely.  However, I'm a bit concerned as to how the club found out and what information has been shared with them.  When I enquired with the club, all they could tell me was that a neighbour had informed them, but they couldn't share any more details with me due to Data Protection.  I'm not a DP expert, but I'm wondering how someone can contact a football club and share personal and sensitive information, but I can't find out who contacted them.  Did any verification of the death take place, and what's to stop someone doing this for more malicious purposes?  This doesn't sit right with me, but I can't work out why.  Can anyone help from a DP point of view?  Thanks so much.
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  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 20,338 Forumite
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    In legal terms, the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and the Data Protection Act no longer applies to identifiable data that relate to a person once they have died.

    You are right that anyone could ring up & say X has died, was a big fan & the club may send out a letter. Maybe they do, do some checks to see if the actual person is dead. Who knows.
    I can see why they won't say who informed them, but you could ask if they do any checks.


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  • If the deceased was a season ticket holder they would likely know he had died anyway. Add to that memorial info freely available online.
  • TELLIT01
    TELLIT01 Posts: 17,969 Forumite
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    A neighbour has tried to do something nice and the OP seems to be trying to find fault.  Hopefully they will make their displeasure know to all their neighbours so they can avoid the same mistake in future.
  • A relative of mine recently passed away - they were a big fan of a Premiership football club, as am I.   A month ago, I received a letter of condolence from the club signed by the manager - which was really lovely.  However, I'm a bit concerned as to how the club found out and what information has been shared with them.  When I enquired with the club, all they could tell me was that a neighbour had informed them, but they couldn't share any more details with me due to Data Protection.  I'm not a DP expert, but I'm wondering how someone can contact a football club and share personal and sensitive information, but I can't find out who contacted them.  Did any verification of the death take place, and what's to stop someone doing this for more malicious purposes?  This doesn't sit right with me, but I can't work out why.  Can anyone help from a DP point of view?  Thanks so much.
    Is the information personal and sensitive, though?  Your relative's name might be all the neighbour disclosed to the club, and they simply found your address and your name as someone with the same address, from that.  I can't see how that's sensitive, given it's information the club held with your and your late relative's consent.

  • TELLIT01 said:
    A neighbour has tried to do something nice and the OP seems to be trying to find fault.  Hopefully they will make their displeasure know to all their neighbours so they can avoid the same mistake in future.
    Don't be ridiculous - I said the letter was lovely.  I'm sure there was no bad intent.  
  • A relative of mine recently passed away - they were a big fan of a Premiership football club, as am I.   A month ago, I received a letter of condolence from the club signed by the manager - which was really lovely.  However, I'm a bit concerned as to how the club found out and what information has been shared with them.  When I enquired with the club, all they could tell me was that a neighbour had informed them, but they couldn't share any more details with me due to Data Protection.  I'm not a DP expert, but I'm wondering how someone can contact a football club and share personal and sensitive information, but I can't find out who contacted them.  Did any verification of the death take place, and what's to stop someone doing this for more malicious purposes?  This doesn't sit right with me, but I can't work out why.  Can anyone help from a DP point of view?  Thanks so much.
    Is the information personal and sensitive, though?  Your relative's name might be all the neighbour disclosed to the club, and they simply found your address and your name as someone with the same address, from that.  I can't see how that's sensitive, given it's information the club held with your and your late relative's consent.

    My personal information being my address, which was different to the deceased, and sensitive information disclosing the death of a relative.
  • emmajones1976
    emmajones1976 Posts: 1,345 Forumite
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    edited 25 November 2021 at 3:43PM
    Someone death isnt "sensitive information".  And as already stated the DPA doesnt apply to the deceased even if it was identifiable information.
  • Ditzy_Mitzy
    Ditzy_Mitzy Posts: 1,952 Forumite
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    So why let it consume your thoughts any more? 
    I would move on, personally. 
    Precisely.  OP hasn't said whether it was a neighbour of his, or of the deceased party or whether they were both residing at the same address.  If it is the OP's neighbour then presumably all he has done is write to the club's manager with words to the effect

    Dear Mr Manager,

    I am sorry to inform you that X, a stalwart supporter of Romford Tuesday, has died.  I would very much appreciate you writing to X's nephew, Y, to express your and the club's condolences.

    Yours sincerely,

    A. Neighbour (Miss)

    I really fail to see what the data protection issue is, however am rather impressed by the care shown by the football manager.
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