Penalty notice from APCOA for rail stn-BUT I BOUGHT A TICKET !

schoolrunmum

Received a penalty notice from APCOA for "non payment" at a railway station-except I did pay and it's on my bank statement- have appealed saying I did buy a ticket, anything else I need to do??

Umkomaas

schoolrunmum said:

Received a penalty notice from APCOA for "non payment" at a railway station-except I did pay and it's on my bank statement- have appealed saying I did buy a ticket, anything else I need to do??

What else did you say in your appeal?  Inadvertently identifying the driver (use of 'I' in an appeal can be a bad omen) in railway station cases generally, and with APCOA cases in particular is not recommended. 

Nevertheless, APCOA are litigiously benign (no private parking court cases ever reported here) and are unlikely to cause you any real problems. Have they formally rejected your appeal - please let us see exactly what you wrote - and have they provided you a POPLA verification code?

Coupon-mad

 have appealed saying I did buy a ticket,

Oh no...you had 100% win nailed on for yourself as registered keeper and have thrown that in the bin. 

Oh dear. Oh well!  They are benign (never sue, to date) but you are likely in it for the long haul now, several tedious appeal stages. None of which were needed, had you come here first and appealed as per the NEWBIES thread, not saying who was driving.

schoolrunmum

Oops! I figured open and shut case as I attached bank statement showing purchase of ticket on said day! I appealed saying I ought not be fined as I bought a valid ticket, and attached the statement....where did I go wrong lol??

schoolrunmum

Umkomaas said:

schoolrunmum said:

Received a penalty notice from APCOA for "non payment" at a railway station-except I did pay and it's on my bank statement- have appealed saying I did buy a ticket, anything else I need to do??

What else did you say in your appeal?  Inadvertently identifying the driver (use of 'I' in an appeal can be a bad omen) in railway station cases generally, and with APCOA cases in particular is not recommended. 

Nevertheless, APCOA are litigiously benign (no private parking court cases ever reported here) and are unlikely to cause you any real problems. Have they formally rejected your appeal - please let us see exactly what you wrote - and have they provided you a POPLA verification code?

I only filed the appeal today, and they said to give them 35 days to reply . I had to get on it, as we got back from hols yesterday, and I opened the post from last 2 weeks today to find I had to appeal by tomorrow..

Coupon-mad

Your username is my username on pepipoo. 

Rings a bell so I think you've posted on this forum before?  If so, it's obvious where you went wrong (see NEWBIES thread). You had 100% slam dunk win, had you appealed as the keeper. 

Pretty much NEVER appeal as driver to a private PCN unless you know what you are doing.

Redx

schoolrunmum said:

Oops! I figured open and shut case as I attached bank statement showing purchase of ticket on said day! I appealed saying I ought not be fined as I bought a valid ticket, and attached the statement....where did I go wrong lol??

No keeper liability , so as a keeper it would have been an easy appeal win based on the law

Blabbing about who was driving killed off the no keeper liability aspect , so one less arrow in your quiver , your best arrow was broken due to not saying , no comment !! So you have a broken arrow and less chance of winning , instead of a 100% chance of winning using no keeper liability

Loose talk costs money !! Sometimes less is more

D_P_Dance

Buying a ticket and proving that you had bought a ticket carries as much weigh in curt as admitting to driving imo.

schoolrunmum

D_P_Dance said:

Buying a ticket and proving that you had bought a ticket carries as much weigh in curt as admitting to driving imo.

Sorry, not sure what you mean?

Le_Kirk

schoolrunmum said:

D_P_Dance said:

Buying a ticket and proving that you had bought a ticket carries as much weigh in curt court as admitting to driving imo in my opinion.

Sorry, not sure what you mean?

Corrections as above, does it make more sense now?  Since you have admitted to being the driver, there is no keeper liability protection from POFA and you might as well admit to being the driver IF you bought a ticket and can prove it.  Being an admitted driver means you can be a first hand witness rather than trying to do it as keeper/not driver.

schoolrunmum

I did buy a ticket, and have bank statement showing so.. I can only assume being in a rush I keyed in an incorrect digit on reg nbr...