EPC F or G rating - How can a tenant get their landlord to improve the rating?

justwhat

lookstraightahead said:

I live on a house 200 years old - please don't tell me you think new houses are decent (especially the ones built on flood plains etc)

or maybe this is just a wind up.

That's a minority that are built on flood plains.  Decent? If you are comparing 1-3ft thick walls in a 200 year old house. Technology and materials have moved on. 

lookstraightahead

justwhat said:

lookstraightahead said:

I live on a house 200 years old - please don't tell me you think new houses are decent (especially the ones built on flood plains etc)

or maybe this is just a wind up.

That's a minority that are built on flood plains.  Decent? If you are comparing 1-3ft thick walls in a 200 year old house. Technology and materials have moved on. 

Are you agreeing that 200 year old properties should be knocked down ? 

babyblade41

My 200 year plus property that I had a few years ago would outlive any new property .

God I hate new builds 

justwhat

lookstraightahead said:

justwhat said:

lookstraightahead said:

I live on a house 200 years old - please don't tell me you think new houses are decent (especially the ones built on flood plains etc)

or maybe this is just a wind up.

That's a minority that are built on flood plains.  Decent? If you are comparing 1-3ft thick walls in a 200 year old house. Technology and materials have moved on. 

Are you agreeing that 200 year old properties should be knocked down ? 

yes some need flattened.  

lookstraightahead

justwhat said:

lookstraightahead said:

justwhat said:

lookstraightahead said:

I live on a house 200 years old - please don't tell me you think new houses are decent (especially the ones built on flood plains etc)

or maybe this is just a wind up.

That's a minority that are built on flood plains.  Decent? If you are comparing 1-3ft thick walls in a 200 year old house. Technology and materials have moved on. 

Are you agreeing that 200 year old properties should be knocked down ? 

yes some need flattened.  

Which ones? What criteria woujd you use? And what type of house wotjd you build on that land? 

justwhat

lookstraightahead said:

Which ones? What criteria woujd you use? And what type of house wotjd you build on that land? 

lol i only want to flatten them lol  if they are not economical to heat or repair. Or have no architectural merit then flatten them. Rebuild with modern materials. 

Section62

justwhat said:

Rebuild with modern materials. 

What would you deem not to be 'modern materials' which might possibly be found in these older buildings - so making them in need of demolition?

Clay bricks?

Mortar?

Clay tiles?

Glass?

Wood/Timber?

Copper and Iron(/Steel)?

.....if you visit a new-build housing estate under construction you might be in for a bit of a surprise.

justwhat

Section62 said:

justwhat said:

Rebuild with modern materials. 

What would you deem not to be 'modern materials' which might possibly be found in these older buildings - so making them in need of demolition?

Clay bricks?

Mortar?

Clay tiles?

Glass?

Wood/Timber?

Copper and Iron(/Steel)?

.....if you visit a new-build housing estate under construction you might be in for a bit of a surprise.

new builds don't have 3ft thick walls or rubble walls ...unsure were you are coming from

Section62

justwhat said:

Section62 said:

justwhat said:

Rebuild with modern materials. 

What would you deem not to be 'modern materials' which might possibly be found in these older buildings - so making them in need of demolition?

Clay bricks?

Mortar?

Clay tiles?

Glass?

Wood/Timber?

Copper and Iron(/Steel)?

.....if you visit a new-build housing estate under construction you might be in for a bit of a surprise.

new builds don't have 3ft thick walls or rubble walls ...unsure were you are coming from

What percentage of 'old houses' which have "no architectural merit" do you think have 3ft thick walls?

And why would 3ft thick walls be a problem in the 'old houses' that have them?


Also, this "demolish anything old" policy seems to have lost sight of the objective of improving energy efficiency - which is to reduce energy consumption and cut CO2 emissions.

Anyone got figures for the energy consumption and CO2 emissions involved in demolishing an existing home and building a new one?  And how many years of energy/CO2 savings would be required just to break even?

So some research on 'embodied energy' might help finesse this policy initiative.....

https://www.designingbuildings.co.uk/wiki/Embodied_energy_in_construction

"The UK construction industry is the largest consumer of resources, consuming more than 400 million tonnes of material a year, and this consumption of materials in itself accounts for around 10% of UK carbon emissions."

"A study of Swedish low-energy buildings found that in one case the initial embodied energy was as much as 40% of the energy consumed by the building through its 50-year life"


....maybe it is better to just improve what we've already got.

lookstraightahead

justwhat said:

Section62 said:

justwhat said:

Rebuild with modern materials. 

What would you deem not to be 'modern materials' which might possibly be found in these older buildings - so making them in need of demolition?

Clay bricks?

Mortar?

Clay tiles?

Glass?

Wood/Timber?

Copper and Iron(/Steel)?

.....if you visit a new-build housing estate under construction you might be in for a bit of a surprise.

new builds don't have 3ft thick walls or rubble walls ...unsure were you are coming from

I don't get your point at all. Or are you getting your centuries mixed up?