Lease Car Company Already Paid

BobSmith5

Just to add:

I am not suggesting we employ this tactic, but if you were to give me you car registration number (I don't even need to know your name) and I were to then write to the registered keeper on headed paper, just like those PCNs we can see all over the internet, would your employer send me some money too? They do seem quite gullible.

Yes. This seems to be the problem. They immediately pay anything that comes their way and charge me for the pleasure of it. Had a similar issue in which I was given a charge from DART charge for crossing a toll bridge, however my car was registered and it was their error. It took them ages to rectify the mistake. They do not check and will immediately pay. 

KeithP

Ah, maybe the DART charge is a penalty or fine from an authority, but a parking charge from a private company certainly is not.

You must be clear on that distinction.

BobSmith5

KeithP said:

Ah, maybe the DART charge is a penalty or fine from an authority, but a parking charge certainly is not.

You must be clear on that distinction.

Ah, I was just using it as an example of them not checking and not really following their policy which seems to state I should have the opportunity to pay (or at least clarify the situation).

So, in regards to this situation, does it seem that my company is at fault for paying the 'speculative invoice'? 

KeithP

BobSmith5 said:

KeithP said:

Ah, maybe the DART charge is a penalty or fine from an authority, but a parking charge certainly is not.

You must be clear on that distinction.

So, in regards to this situation, does it seem that my company is at fault for paying the 'speculative invoice'? 

I would say so... Yes.

BobSmith5

KeithP said:

BobSmith5 said:

KeithP said:

Ah, maybe the DART charge is a penalty or fine from an authority, but a parking charge certainly is not.

You must be clear on that distinction.

So, in regards to this situation, does it seem that my company is at fault for paying the 'speculative invoice'? 

I would say so... Yes.

Thank you. 

So, in terms of fighting this and stopping them from deducting from my salary, what would be the best course of action? 

They initially told me to appeal it and only then they'll reimburse me. However, it is has already been paid, I am sure the parking company will not be interested in returning the money. 

Edit: For example, is there someone I can say I will report my company to for how they have handled the situation?

go-on-then

Maybe go through the other threads on here from other people who have been caught in a similar situation to you ?  

Fruitcake

The PPC won't be interested. They have got their money and are laughing all the way to the bank.

You need to go through the Ts and Cs of the lease agreement and your employment contract. If you have a union rep, get them involved. If the agreements only cover penalties, fines, and issuing authorities, but not parking charges from unregulated private parking companies, then you need to draft letters/emails of complaint to carefully explain these breaches contracts. Point out that these are legally binding, and it may be a criminal offence to deduct monies from your salary for things that aren't covered by the contracts.

If the lease company is a BVRLA member then complain to both that the lease Co have not followed their trade associations instructions to pass the charge to the lessee and inform the PPC, and not to pay the charge.

You have been denied your right to appeal as well, so that should be included in your complaints.

Do get your MP involved.

Half_way

Do as your company says and challenge the invoice to the parking company.
Odds on you won't get anywhere however you need to show  you are being reasonable and following procedure and it will help in the next stage(s)


I assume you have the original parking charge notice
 

You should also complain to the landowner, with the intention of getting the landowner to refund your losses

Coupon-mad

Put it into dispute and take it to the BVRLA.

Jenni_D

If I've read correctly ...

• The lease company say they'll pass the "fine" to the driver to first appeal, but in fact they just paid it (in breach of their own terms)
• The lease terms relate only to fines from an issuing authority - as a private parking charge notice is merely an invoice then again they're in breach of their own terms
• The lease company had the option to obviate any liability by following their trade body's guidance but chose not to, thus any liability for the charge actually rests with them
• Employer was charged by the lease company, for the invoice value plus an admin fee of £25
• Employer is seeking to deduct the full amount from you via salary

You need to confirm what your employer's Car Policy says on this subject. You also need to make them aware that the lease company have breached their own T&Cs and thus you are not liable.

I've had this once before ... I had made my employer aware of the reality of such situations and advised them that the Car Policy did not make me liable for private PCNs. Some time later I was notified of a PCN and that they'd seek to deduct from my salary - I referred them to the previous correspondence and that if they did attempt any such deduction I'd raise a grievance.

And in future - parking time starts from when you are parked, not from when you decide to go to the P&D terminal!