Change Holiday or press harder for a refund?

onashoestring

@paul9619  with Tui’s T&Cs - you would only be entitled to a refund if there was a travel ban preventing you from entering USA- however you all can still travel and stay at your hotel , whilst you might not be able to do what you would like to do there , ther are lots of alternative activities available. So you are not entitled to a refund from TUI.

Fortunately for you TUI’s flexible T&Cs are that you can change you holiday fee free because there are restrictions in your destination that have been introduced after you booked that will significantly impact your holiday enjoyment so they are offering you fee free change inline with their T&Cs. 

paul9619

onashoestring said:

@paul9619  with Tui’s T&Cs - you would only be entitled to a refund if there was a travel ban preventing you from entering USA- however you all can still travel and stay at your hotel , whilst you might not be able to do what you would like to do there , ther are lots of alternative activities available. So you are not entitled to a refund from TUI.

Fortunately for you TUI’s flexible T&Cs are that you can change you holiday fee free because there are restrictions in your destination that have been introduced after you booked that will significantly impact your holiday enjoyment so they are offering you fee free change inline with their T&Cs. 

Ok thanks. What about not being able to eat in the hotel restaurant for breakfast?This has been paid for as part of the holiday but cannot be fulfilled!

onashoestring

paul9619 said:

onashoestring said:

@paul9619  with Tui’s T&Cs - you would only be entitled to a refund if there was a travel ban preventing you from entering USA- however you all can still travel and stay at your hotel , whilst you might not be able to do what you would like to do there , ther are lots of alternative activities available. So you are not entitled to a refund from TUI.

Fortunately for you TUI’s flexible T&Cs are that you can change you holiday fee free because there are restrictions in your destination that have been introduced after you booked that will significantly impact your holiday enjoyment so they are offering you fee free change inline with their T&Cs. 

Ok thanks. What about not being able to eat in the hotel restaurant for breakfast?This has been paid for as part of the holiday but cannot be fulfilled!

I assume the hotel will provide breakfast that can be eaten in the room for guests who aren’t allowed to eat in the restaurant and if this is something that will significantly impact your enjoyment of your holiday then you can change the holiday free of charge but unfortunately doesn’t entitle you to a refund under the T&Cs that you agreed to when you booked with TUI.

814man

Just going back to the first post you state that the 15 year old cannot get the NHS App.  This should not be the case as the app is available to anyone 13 years old and over.

emmajones1976

814man said:

Just going back to the first post you state that the 15 year old cannot get the NHS App.  This should not be the case as the app is available to anyone 13 years old and over.

I think the bigger issue is that a 15 year old currently cannot have two jabs, which is what other countries will consider "fully vaccinated" (unless its the brand that only needs one jab which I dont believe the UK is dishing out anyway)

Sandtree

emmajones1976 said:

814man said:

Just going back to the first post you state that the 15 year old cannot get the NHS App.  This should not be the case as the app is available to anyone 13 years old and over.

I think the bigger issue is that a 15 year old currently cannot have two jabs, which is what other countries will consider "fully vaccinated" (unless its the brand that only needs one jab which I dont believe the UK is dishing out anyway)

NYC rules only require you to evidence having had one dose not that you have to be fully vaccinated COVID-19: Vaccine Key to NYC - NYC Health

Certainly until recently the US were giving vaccines to anyone that wanted them irrespective of immigration status etc, I know several people who took trips to the US simply to get a free vaccination because of very slow roll outs in their own countries or because they wanted the likes of Pfizer rather than the Chinese/Indian/Russian options being offered at home. They were given a CDC card for the vaccine which obviously then can be used locally to get access to venues... no where seems to suggest there is a minimum time between vaccination and entry being allowable.

paul9619

814man said:

Just going back to the first post you state that the 15 year old cannot get the NHS App.  This should not be the case as the app is available to anyone 13 years old and over.

She can install the app yes but the covid pass element will not work for an under 16 so it’s about as much use as a chocolate fireguard in terms of proving covid  vaccine status. 

I got a print out from the GP today and the details from her vaccination record are actually very conclusive and include all the details that the CDC are asking for. Hopefully this will be enough. Going to risk it and go for a nice holiday to NY. I am sure there will be plenty to do regardless. 

paul9619

Sandtree said:

emmajones1976 said:

814man said:

Just going back to the first post you state that the 15 year old cannot get the NHS App.  This should not be the case as the app is available to anyone 13 years old and over.

I think the bigger issue is that a 15 year old currently cannot have two jabs, which is what other countries will consider "fully vaccinated" (unless its the brand that only needs one jab which I dont believe the UK is dishing out anyway)

NYC rules only require you to evidence having had one dose not that you have to be fully vaccinated COVID-19: Vaccine Key to NYC - NYC Health

Certainly until recently the US were giving vaccines to anyone that wanted them irrespective of immigration status etc, I know several people who took trips to the US simply to get a free vaccination because of very slow roll outs in their own countries or because they wanted the likes of Pfizer rather than the Chinese/Indian/Russian options being offered at home. They were given a CDC card for the vaccine which obviously then can be used locally to get access to venues... no where seems to suggest there is a minimum time between vaccination and entry being allowable.

Maybe something for us to look at while we are out there. Although I felt like rubbish after my 2nd jab so she might not thank me for it 😂

onashoestring

Hope you have a great trip @paul9619 please report back on how it works out . 

Sandtree

paul9619 said:

Sandtree said:

emmajones1976 said:

814man said:

Just going back to the first post you state that the 15 year old cannot get the NHS App.  This should not be the case as the app is available to anyone 13 years old and over.

I think the bigger issue is that a 15 year old currently cannot have two jabs, which is what other countries will consider "fully vaccinated" (unless its the brand that only needs one jab which I dont believe the UK is dishing out anyway)

NYC rules only require you to evidence having had one dose not that you have to be fully vaccinated COVID-19: Vaccine Key to NYC - NYC Health

Certainly until recently the US were giving vaccines to anyone that wanted them irrespective of immigration status etc, I know several people who took trips to the US simply to get a free vaccination because of very slow roll outs in their own countries or because they wanted the likes of Pfizer rather than the Chinese/Indian/Russian options being offered at home. They were given a CDC card for the vaccine which obviously then can be used locally to get access to venues... no where seems to suggest there is a minimum time between vaccination and entry being allowable.

Maybe something for us to look at while we are out there. Although I felt like rubbish after my 2nd jab so she might not thank me for it 😂

I did for a day too but most people I know didnt and the few that claimed to be ill for a week or more are a bit of hypochondriacs anyway.

The main thing to be prepped for is explaining to a waiter why your proofs look different remembering they may have never seen any from the UK. I dont know in reality how strictly things are being applied, certainly UK restrictions were potentially tough on paper but total farce in reality -  the pub near the office accepted anyone in a suit as being on a "business meeting", didnt stop serving drinks after food finished, only allowed tables of 6 but you could have multiple tables of 6 under a foot apart and no issues with people switching between tables etc. No wonder the rates etc.