VCS Caught Issuing PCNs on Public Highway - Hit For £1,000 Counterclaim

Curlyben

AnotherForumite said:

Curlyben said:

AnotherForumite said:

These court reports are very informative, will there be one for VCS v Percy (latest court of appeal ruling that the add on £60 is lawful); or have I missed it?

Why don't you enlighten us or post a link ?
After all I could say the moon is made of cream cheese, but without corroboration I might as well be smoking kippers...

Bargepole represented the motorist, so I would have thought that he would prefer to have the pleasure; unless only the wins are reported 🤷🏼‍♂️

The full transcript is on Elms Legal Linkedin page.

As few people stalk companies on Linkedin, especially a PPCs tame legals, an independent link, without the obvious trackers, would be more conducive to balanced reporting.

bargepole

AnotherForumite said:

Bargepole represented the motorist, so I would have thought that he would prefer to have the pleasure; unless only the wins are reported 🤷🏼‍♂️

The full transcript is on Elms Legal Linkedin page.

Yes I did indeed represent the motorist in that appeal case. Although it was not at the ''Court of Appeal'', it was still a County Court decision, by HHJ Saffman, and therefore may be persuasive, but not binding. The full Judgment is available here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ntksx9g7177ahyg/VCS v Percy v1 Amendments (2).pdf?dl=0

However, he did not award VCS any of the £3,000+ costs they were seeking.

It was disappointing that the learned Judge decided to go against the opinions of all the District Judges on his circuit, who deal with such matters on a daily basis, whereas parking cases coming before a Circuit Judge are fewer than the fingers on a sawmill operator's hand.

As I said at the time, and the Judge agreed, it really didn't matter what ruling he made, because this issue will ultimately be determined by whatever the Government finally decides when they publish the final version of the Code of Practice, and Enforcement Framework. That will supersede any previous court rulings.

If that were not imminent, there are a number of flaws (IMHO) in the Judgment capable of being appealed to a higher court, but no point in wasting time and money on a further appeal in light of the forthcoming statutory implementation.

AnotherForumite

Judgement as requested: https://www.mediafire.com/file/43jrk2zwdrllufp/VCS_v_Percy.pdf/file

Coupon-mad

Knew about this one and mentioned it last week.  Not exactly persuasive, about as useful as HHJ Simpkiss' one, where he thought that £82 was for a DVLA look up...

Makes no difference in the long term.  More important that the new CoP and framework get it right.

I thought your company adds less, didn't you say ages ago when you talked about starting your own court claims?  What's £70 for then?

nicestrawb

AnotherForumite said:

These court reports are very informative, will there be one for VCS v Percy (latest court of appeal ruling that the add on £60 is lawful); or have I missed it?

How does that relate to the subject of this thread? If you want to comment on this thread why don't you give us your opinion on whether in such cases, you believe parking companies are committing fraud? I wonder if when the new CoP comes into effect, it will be considered exactly that...

D_P_Dance

The full transcript is on Elms Legal Linkedin page.

I struggle with linkedin, can you olease ost a link. 

Fruitcake

AnotherForumite said:

Judgement as requested: https://www.mediafire.com/file/43jrk2zwdrllufp/VCS_v_Percy.pdf/file

That website wants to use me to agree for them to process my personal data. I'm not going to do that.

Fruitcake

D_P_Dance said:

The full transcript is on Elms Legal Linkedin page.

I struggle with linkedin, can you olease ost a link. 

Why not use the link that bargepole posted yesterday?

NCC1701-A

AnotherForumite said:

These court reports are very informative, will there be one for VCS v Percy (latest court of appeal ruling that the add on £60 is lawful); or have I missed it?

Seeing as you've ignored my request to give us your views on a private parking company charging motorists on land they have no authority to ticket or charge for on, maybe you say whether you think VCS should appeal these judgements too?

MDPointing

Hi @bargepole

is there any chance a redacted version of the defence on this could be uploaded at all please? I’m in a similar situation with another PPC regarding them just shoving signs up on a TRO area and want 7 PCN payments off of me.