Does my car really need a service?

KimJongUn88

ontheroad1970 said:

KimJongUn88 said:

BMTH said:

Alanp said:

I’d take it to the dealer to keep your warranty, yes you can go elsewhere but should something major go wrong then Hyundai will look at anything to get out of honouring that warranty 

What if I take it to a local garage to get serviced? That's still got full service history?

At four years old, I presume it would be out of warranty now.

There’s nothing to stop you taking it to a decent vat registered Indy. However, you might just be saving around £100. So is it worth it?

Hyundai is 5 years.

Apologies. In that case I’d stick with main dealer. You can still go to an independent but I’d stick with main dealer for any goodwill required for future warranty claims.

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I thought that under EU block exemption rule any competent garage is now allowed to service any make provided they use the approved maker parts and oils and are thus allowed to stamp the service manual that that makers cannot ignore (the service schedule and what is required they can access).  e.g. My local indie has bought in the ford approved oil for the ecotek engines.

Service items vary, some services cost more than others depending what is built into the Schedule. Wording is also a bane as it often seems that a low mileage car gets nobbled with the high milage service. When you are out of warranty then perhaps tell them what you are happy with. But ask them what they are doing this service, might be brake fluid change as well, or a belt change.

Though how this sits with pcp contracts, I don't know. 

Stubod

Top tip,

Servicing cars is a scam supported by garages as a money making scheme, and should be ignored.

It is a known fact that if you do not replace your tyres the treads wear down so you end up with a greater contact area which is better for grip, the smaller diameter also helps with acceleration due to the lower gearing due to the smaller wheel diameter. Get down to the canvass and steel bracing will also give better grip in wintery conditions.

 Not changing your oil and oil filter means you will have less in your sump and this means your engine will heat up quicker and get you engine up to its operating temperature sooner. This can also be helped by not having much / any water in your radiator.

 Also not changing your oil will make what oil you do have a lot thicker so it will create a better cushion for all the moving parts. It’s even better when what oil you do have is lost completely as then the engine will then seize and you won’t be able to drive anywhere so your running costs will then be massively reduced. Conversely your oil may go very thin in which case it will give less resistance to the moving parts thus making your engine a lot more efficient and save fuel. (Sometime this can be helped by adding a little water into you oil).

Likewise air filters get more efficient as they get clogged up and will will prevent even more crap getting into your engine and damaging it

 Spark plug gaps will either increase due to wear, thus giving a weaker spark which will save electricity, or conversely they will build up giving a smaller gap resulting in a bigger spark which will give better combustion, (a real win win scenario).

 It’s also best to let your brake pads / discs wear down to nothing as you will then get metal to metal contact, and it’s a known fact that metal to metal contact generates lots of heat and will eventually seize your brakes completely giving you the “ultimate” braking performance.

Not replacing wiper blades also negates the need to clear the windscreen in snow / icing conditions and reduces the risk of them subsequently breaking off...

If the worst comes to the worst you can rest assured that the car manufacturers will always offer you a full refund on your car regardless of it's age and mileage, normally on any car as long as it less than 20 years old and under 250k miles...

When I was 16 I couldn’t even spell “engineer”…now I are one...

jackieblack

I’m on my second Hyundai, and in both cases the 4 year service at the local dealership was really thorough and both times I had a couple of things found and resolved under warranty that I hadn’t been aware of.

I’ve continued using the dealership for service/MOT because the ‘out of warranty’ service comes with a year’s breakdown cover so the difference in cost between local garage service + year’s breakdown is negligible and also because they’ll come and pick up my car from work and delivery it back afterwards, which local garage doesn’t, so it’s more convenient for me 
https://www.hyundai.co.uk/owning/service#esensetials_servicing

born_again

half_empty said:

I thought that under EU block exemption rule any competent garage is now allowed to service any make provided they use the approved maker parts and oils and are thus allowed to stamp the service manual that that makers cannot ignore (the service schedule and what is required they can access).  e.g. My local indie has bought in the ford approved oil for the ecotek engines.

Service items vary, some services cost more than others depending what is built into the Schedule. Wording is also a bane as it often seems that a low mileage car gets nobbled with the high milage service. When you are out of warranty then perhaps tell them what you are happy with. But ask them what they are doing this service, might be brake fluid change as well, or a belt change.

Though how this sits with pcp contracts, I don't know. 

It does.
But does not stop a manufacture where a warranty claim is being looked at asking for proof that car was serviced with genuine parts & using the correct spec of oils etc that they use.
As well as a fully itemised invoice proving this...
A indie can not do software updates or recalls as well as annual bodywork checks if that is part of the warranty.

A warranty is at manufactures terms.

4 Years service on Kia/Hyundai is a big service. Mileage of car has not is not a consideration, in this case. As they work on mileage or age (whichever one comes 1st) for the services.

BMTH

Managed to find a dealer closer to me who's charging £350 for the MOT and service rather than £400 so will take that. Will thank myself in the long run too. Cheers for the advice all

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born_again said:

half_empty said:

I thought that under EU block exemption rule any competent garage is now allowed to service any make provided they use the approved maker parts and oils and are thus allowed to stamp the service manual that that makers cannot ignore (the service schedule and what is required they can access).  e.g. My local indie has bought in the ford approved oil for the ecotek engines.

Service items vary, some services cost more than others depending what is built into the Schedule. Wording is also a bane as it often seems that a low mileage car gets nobbled with the high milage service. When you are out of warranty then perhaps tell them what you are happy with. But ask them what they are doing this service, might be brake fluid change as well, or a belt change.

Though how this sits with pcp contracts, I don't know. 

It does.
But does not stop a manufacture where a warranty claim is being looked at asking for proof that car was serviced with genuine parts & using the correct spec of oils etc that they use.
As well as a fully itemised invoice proving this...
A indie can not do software updates or recalls as well as annual bodywork checks if that is part of the warranty.

A warranty is at manufactures terms.

4 Years service on Kia/Hyundai is a big service. Mileage of car has not is not a consideration, in this case. As they work on mileage or age (whichever one comes 1st) for the services.

I get a fully itemised bill from the indies I use, and as I said, one buys in the correct oil in bulk for a particular brand that is common around here, the other orders in as per requirements, the correct one that meets the makers requirements. Full breakdown of costs and parts used. If there is a warranty on the car then the correct parts are used rather than a generic OEM. All services are carried out to the manufactures spec and I still follow that even though we are below milage vs age etc.

Cannot comment on software issues but the going round bits and oily bits should all be covered as I understand it with no penalties for using an indie, of course dealers will play the game though which is why I now avoid them, that and plugging in a diagnostic tool to tell me the alternator was borked and I already proven that fault and getting a handy 75 quid bill for the privilege and it was called not a warranty issue inside the warranty time.

Irony was we had a new heater box fitted that failed whilst under warranty on same car that was being serviced away after alternator gate. Different desk manager on that day? I don't know.

However, it is up to the driver to make this decision and check the T+C. And it can be tricky finding the good indies that do this. We are fortunate I have two local that I use, I hear there are one or two more that will fit the bill.

Bigwheels1111

I had the same issue with Peugeot.

4 Year service and Mot £380.00 but I had only done 12,000 miles.

I was lucky I had taken out a 5 year service plan in 2016 for £13.42 a month, £805.20 in total.

I thought £161.04 a year is not too bad.

It was up for renewal in Septembr 2021, My local dealer wants £801.00 for 3 years plus £118.00 for 2 brake fluid changes.

I rang around like you to get a better deal and got a Peugeot main dealer service plan for 5 more year for £14.99 a month, £899.40 in total for 5 years

Including 3 brake fluid changes.

But is 30 mins extra driving each way.

Worth it for me as saves £100 a year for 1 hours extra travel a year.

motorguy

KimJongUn88 said:

BMTH said:

Alanp said:

I’d take it to the dealer to keep your warranty, yes you can go elsewhere but should something major go wrong then Hyundai will look at anything to get out of honouring that warranty 

What if I take it to a local garage to get serviced? That's still got full service history?

At four years old, I presume it would be out of warranty now.

There’s nothing to stop you taking it to a decent vat registered Indy. However, you might just be saving around £100. So is it worth it?

Its a Hyundai and they're five years warranty?

So i'd be sticking with the main dealer service for now

Ibrahim5

What do they do at 4 years? An air filter change as well as the oil change?