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14 Weeks Before NTK Issued

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  • Alleged
    Alleged Posts: 33 Forumite
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    A further defence?

    The PCN NTK states the following:

    “Contravention Reason

    101) PARKED WITHOUT PAYMENT OF THE PARKING TARIFF FOR THE VEHICLE REGISTRATION MARK OF THE VEHICLE ON SITE

    The Maximum period allowed at this site is 0 minutes”

    Allowing 0 (Zero) minutes to reject or accept (& pay) for parking at the site makes every driver entering the site unable to satisfy the T&C’s in full. The T&C’s are therefore not fit for purpose & invalid in their entirety.

  • Alleged
    Alleged Posts: 33 Forumite
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    Could someone please advise if I include the photo's in the defence I am sending today or do I only send the wording (using the photo's as a referenced item during the hearing)?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 160,784 Forumite
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    Are you submitting a defence (NO ATTACHMENTS) or your WS and evidence? The NEWBIES thread explains the difference.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
     Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Alleged
    Alleged Posts: 33 Forumite
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    Coupon-mad said:
    Are you submitting a defence (NO ATTACHMENTS) or your WS and evidence? The NEWBIES thread explains the difference.
    Defence.
    It is the first stage after the AOS.
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    Alleged said:
    Coupon-mad said:
    Are you submitting a defence (NO ATTACHMENTS) or your WS and evidence? The NEWBIES thread explains the difference.
    Defence.
    It is the first stage after the AOS.
    No pictures or evidence are submitted with the defence , no attachments , only the pdf Defence
  • Alleged
    Alleged Posts: 33 Forumite
    10 Posts
    Redx said:
    Defence.
    It is the first stage after the AOS.
    No pictures or evidence are submitted with the defence , no attachments , only the pdf Defence
    Thanks. 
    I am doing a lot of reading but it does send my mind spinning trying to tie it all up correctly!
    It is worth making sure I get it right. 
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,593 Forumite
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    It is certainly not painting by nuimberw, but it is not rocket science either 
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Alleged
    Alleged Posts: 33 Forumite
    10 Posts
    Should I add the following to my defence?.....

    The PCN NTK states the following: “Contravention Reason 
    101) PARKED WITHOUT PAYMENT OF THE PARKING TARIFF FOR THE VEHICLE REGISTRATION MARK OF THE VEHICLE ON SITE
    The Maximum period allowed at this site is 0 minutes”
    I find no reference to a contravention listed as “101)” on the signage. Allowing 0 (Zero) minutes to reject the T&C’s or accept (& pay) for parking at the site makes every driver entering the site unable to satisfy the T&C’s in full. Further, the signpost T&C’s do not allow a driver to reject the T&C’s by leaving, after reading the complicated signage, as a parking charge notice will be issued for “failure to make payment within 5 minutes following entry to the car park/private land”. To be clear: even if a vehicle leaves within 5 minutes of entry the signage attempts to make the driver liable to pay the PCN as they did not make a payment. The T&C’s are therefore not fit for purpose & invalid in their entirety.

  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    Alternatively, "The Maximum period allowed at this site is 0 minutes" means that no parking is allowed.
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    Let us see your proposed numbered draft of paragraphs 2 and 3 , for critique

    Do not post the rest of the template defence , only your homework needs checking
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