re House Deeds - is it the same as Conveyance document? or Assignment?

joe565

Hello

I requested Deeds of my house from Solicitor and have been sent a document named 'Conveyance' and another document named 'Assignment'

Are either of these the same as Deeds?

Joe

GoogleMeNow

Have you recently completed your purchase or was the solicitor holding deeds for safe keeping on your behalf?  Any original documents relating to the property, such as old conveyances, transfers etc are collectively called "deeds", however the Register of Title is also commonly known as (title) deeds and is held electronically these days at Land Registry.

You can download the title deed for £3 from HM Land Registry here:
https://eservices.landregistry.gov.uk/eservices/FindAProperty/view/QuickEnquiryInit.do

joe565

GoogleMeNow said:

Have you recently completed your purchase or was the solicitor holding deeds for safe keeping on your behalf?  Any original documents relating to the property, such as old conveyances, transfers etc are collectively called "deeds", however the Register of Title is also commonly known as (title) deeds and is held electronically these days at Land Registry.

You can download the title deed for £3 from HM Land Registry here:
https://eservices.landregistry.gov.uk/eservices/FindAProperty/view/QuickEnquiryInit.do

Solicitor was holding deeds for safe keeping.  I just need a copy of the deeds and have been sent out a Conveyance document and an Assignment document and not sure which of these is the deeds?

GoogleMeNow

joe565 said:

GoogleMeNow said:

Have you recently completed your purchase or was the solicitor holding deeds for safe keeping on your behalf?  Any original documents relating to the property, such as old conveyances, transfers etc are collectively called "deeds", however the Register of Title is also commonly known as (title) deeds and is held electronically these days at Land Registry.

You can download the title deed for £3 from HM Land Registry here:
https://eservices.landregistry.gov.uk/eservices/FindAProperty/view/QuickEnquiryInit.do

Solicitor was holding deeds for safe keeping.  I just need a copy of the deeds and have been sent out a Conveyance document and an Assignment document and not sure which of these is the deeds?

They are both "deeds", but if you want a copy of the title deeds, click on my link above.

user1977

joe565 said:

GoogleMeNow said:

Have you recently completed your purchase or was the solicitor holding deeds for safe keeping on your behalf?  Any original documents relating to the property, such as old conveyances, transfers etc are collectively called "deeds", however the Register of Title is also commonly known as (title) deeds and is held electronically these days at Land Registry.

You can download the title deed for £3 from HM Land Registry here:
https://eservices.landregistry.gov.uk/eservices/FindAProperty/view/QuickEnquiryInit.do

I just need a copy of the deeds

What for?

canaldumidi

'Deeds' is a generic term that can include a number of different documents.

Historically, before the electronic Land Registry, ownership of property (the 'deeds' ) comprised a sequence of Conveyance documents (essentially contracts for each sale) proving that the current owner bought from the previous one, who owned the property based on his Conveyance from the previous owner, and so forth. Thus Conveyances going back over decades, from owner to owner, proved that the current owner was, indeed, the real owner.

And alongside these Conveyances, there may have been other documents (including, confusingly, deeds) which applied to the property and imposed conditions (covenants), or rights, which would be transferred to any new owner.

All of the above would have been on paper, and would constitute the 'Deeds' of the property.

Nowadays, many (most?)properties are registered with the Land Registry. Ownership no longer relies on these historic Conveyances, as the current, genuine owner is recorded at the LR. The LR also holds copies of (most) of the other related documents.

So the key quesion for you is: is the property registered or unregistered (not all are).

If registered, pay £3 (+£3) and get a copy of the title register and Title Plan from the LR as googlemenow suggests. And if that refers to another document (eg a deed with covenants that apply to the prperty), pay £6 for that too.

If the property has not changed hands in the last 20-30+ years, it may not be registered, in which case you need all those paper documents (the paper 'Deeds') I referred to earlier.

joe565

canaldumidi said:

'Deeds' is a generic term that can include a number of different documents.

Historically, before the electronic Land Registry, ownership of property (the 'deeds' ) comprised a sequence of Conveyance documents (essentially contracts for each sale) proving that the current owner bought from the previous one, who owned the property based on his Conveyance from the previous owner, and so forth. Thus Conveyances going back over decades, from owner to owner, proved that the current owner was, indeed, the real owner.

And alongside these Conveyances, there may have been other documents (including, confusingly, deeds) which applied to the property and imposed conditions (covenants), or rights, which would be transferred to any new owner.

All of the above would have been on paper, and would constitute the 'Deeds' of the property.

Nowadays, many (most?)properties are registered with the Land Registry. Ownership no longer relies on these historic Conveyances, as the current, genuine owner is recorded at the LR. The LR also holds copies of (most) of the other related documents.

So the key quesion for you is: is the property registered or unregistered (not all are).

If registered, pay £3 (+£3) and get a copy of the title register and Title Plan from the LR as googlemenow suggests. And if that refers to another document (eg a deed with covenants that apply to the prperty), pay £6 for that too.

If the property has not changed hands in the last 20-30+ years, it may not be registered, in which case you need all those paper documents (the paper 'Deeds') I referred to earlier.

Thanks very much - the property is unregistered.

GoogleMeNow

If the property is unregistered, then does the conveyance that you have received, show the transfer of the property from the previous owner to yourself?  

joe565

GoogleMeNow said:

If the property is unregistered, then does the conveyance that you have received, show the transfer of the property from the previous owner to yourself?  

Mentions his name as previous owner and mentions neighbour's name as it's on a shared driveway

canaldumidi

joe565 said:

GoogleMeNow said:

If the property is unregistered, then does the conveyance that you have received, show the transfer of the property from the previous owner to yourself?  

Mentions his name as previous owner and mentions neighbour's name as it's on a shared driveway

That's not what Joe asked:

does the conveyance that you have received, show the transfer of the property from the previous owner to yourself?