child benefit for 20yr old

Borders2017

sounds long and convoluted.

If shes getting pip she needs to be s[ending that on transport.

When shes finished higher education how does she expect to be getting around if she has mobility issues?

Sounds like  family need to move / get jobs 

poppy12345

Borders2017 said:

sounds long and convoluted.

If shes getting pip she needs to be s[ending that on transport.

When shes finished higher education how does she expect to be getting around if she has mobility issues?

Sounds like  family need to move / get jobs 

I'm not sure what this has to do with the family needing to "get jobs" as you put it. This forum is about helping others, not for judging them. https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/365935/its-about-helping-people-get-their-entitlement-not-about-benefits-policy#latest

Brie

I know that an application to Access to Work could be done if she was employed - perhaps one could be done to help her get to / from school to save on some taxi fares??

poppy12345

Brie said:

I know that an application to Access to Work could be done if she was employed - perhaps one could be done to help her get to / from school to save on some taxi fares??

I advised speaking to their local Authority for support with getting to and from college but this maybe limited to under the age of 20, which child benefit ends. It will of course depend on their local Authority rules with transport for students.

KxMx

If bus cancellations are causing the daughter to need the taxis as you've suggested, perhaps a complaint to the company with college copied in each time she has to use a taxi will make the bus company look again at where to make the cancellations.

A shortage of drivers means this is happening in many areas including mine, but here thankfully the cancellations have been focused on a few routes where they are very frequent anyway, so missing 2-3 out a day isn't too bad. 

2Protons

squizz11 said:

I have a friend who's daughter had just turned 20 and is still in full time education (not higher)  which finishes next July, this is because of ill health in the past and moving.    she is also waiting for an op on both her knees where both legs will have to be broken,  this should happen in the next few months.

she still lives at home, tax credits and CB have now stopped and she isn't entitled to UC as she is a student.

is there any other benefit that can help as her mum gets nothing now 
she gets pip but she isn't meant to use that to live on, as that's not what it's for 
thanks 

Presuming you friend doesn't live with a partner and she and her daugher are the only adults - I firstly would make sure your getting at least council tax single person discount as the daughter will be disregarded since she is a student and see what else the council is prepared to offer,  since she is claiming PIP I would see if your electricity company is part of Warm Home Discount Scheme (£140) and apply for that - https://www.gov.uk/the-warm-home-discount-scheme.

For context the point of PIP is to cover the additional living costs that having a disability causes (e.g  covering the cost of  taxi's for shopping, food delivery service, some home help like cleaner etc) but the daughter can spend the money any way she likes. With this in mind I would argue she only needing the Taxi's due to the bus company canceling services so its not a cost the PIP was intended for. I would speak to the school/college to see if there are any discretionary funds that could used for the taxis since this could affect your friends daughter ability to stay on the course.

Then I would see if the daughter can try and claim universal credit 

   

The Citizens Advice Bureaux and Disabled Students Helpline should be a good starting point

https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/how-we-can-help/helplines/disabled-students-helpline

Although it is a small cost (£20 although you can find offers) I found the benefits and work guides are really useful if she can't get an advisor to help especially as she already gets PIP so there would be some overlap - does she have copy of the pip application?

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/universal-credit-uc

poppy12345

2Protons said:

squizz11 said:

I have a friend who's daughter had just turned 20 and is still in full time education (not higher)  which finishes next July, this is because of ill health in the past and moving.    she is also waiting for an op on both her knees where both legs will have to be broken,  this should happen in the next few months.

she still lives at home, tax credits and CB have now stopped and she isn't entitled to UC as she is a student.

is there any other benefit that can help as her mum gets nothing now 
she gets pip but she isn't meant to use that to live on, as that's not what it's for 
thanks 

Then I would see if the daughter can try and claim universal credit 

As previously advised, as a Student they will not be able to claim UC unless they have already been found to have either LCW or LCWRA. The only way to be assessed for this is to claim New style ESA as a credits only claim (no payments will be received)

2Protons

poppy12345 said:

2Protons said:

squizz11 said:

I have a friend who's daughter had just turned 20 and is still in full time education (not higher)  which finishes next July, this is because of ill health in the past and moving.    she is also waiting for an op on both her knees where both legs will have to be broken,  this should happen in the next few months.

she still lives at home, tax credits and CB have now stopped and she isn't entitled to UC as she is a student.

is there any other benefit that can help as her mum gets nothing now 
she gets pip but she isn't meant to use that to live on, as that's not what it's for 
thanks 

Then I would see if the daughter can try and claim universal credit 

As previously advised, as a Student they will not be able to claim UC unless they have already been found to have either LCW or LCWRA. The only way to be assessed for this is to claim New style ESA as a credits only claim (no payments will be received)

It may be easier than that now since the previous policy regarding disabled student and UC was challenged in court
https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/disabled-student-wins-right-to-challenge-dwp-over-universal-credit-discrimination/
 and found to be unlawful and the DWP eventually accepted this. 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/827/made 

That's why I suggested speaking to the Citizens Advice Bureaux and Disabled Students Helpline although thinking about I would start with the school & college would be a good idea too since they would come across situation were students need financial support so have someone who understands how universal credit works

poppy12345

2Protons said:

poppy12345 said:

2Protons said:

squizz11 said:

I have a friend who's daughter had just turned 20 and is still in full time education (not higher)  which finishes next July, this is because of ill health in the past and moving.    she is also waiting for an op on both her knees where both legs will have to be broken,  this should happen in the next few months.

she still lives at home, tax credits and CB have now stopped and she isn't entitled to UC as she is a student.

is there any other benefit that can help as her mum gets nothing now 
she gets pip but she isn't meant to use that to live on, as that's not what it's for 
thanks 

Then I would see if the daughter can try and claim universal credit 

As previously advised, as a Student they will not be able to claim UC unless they have already been found to have either LCW or LCWRA. The only way to be assessed for this is to claim New style ESA as a credits only claim (no payments will be received)

It may be easier than that now since the previous policy regarding disabled student and UC was challenged in court
https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/disabled-student-wins-right-to-challenge-dwp-over-universal-credit-discrimination/
 and found to be unlawful and the DWP eventually accepted this. 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/827/made 

That's why I suggested speaking to the Citizens Advice Bureaux and Disabled Students Helpline although thinking about I would start with the school & college would be a good idea too since they would come across situation were students need financial support so have someone who understands how universal credit works

That doesn't mean that a disabled student can claim UC without first being found to have either LCW or LCWRA and must be claiming a disability benefit such as PIP/DLA.

New style ESA is the way to go, which is wny it was advised. There's alot of people here that have a lot of knowledge with the benefits system...

calcotti

2Protons said: It may be easier than that now since the previous policy regarding disabled student and UC was challenged in court

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/disabled-student-wins-right-to-challenge-dwp-over-universal-credit-discrimination/
 and found to be unlawful and the DWP eventually accepted this. 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/827/made 

You’re missing the point of the legislation you have referenced. It was found to be unlawful to require somebody to have to be assessed as having LCW prior to applying for UC under the then regulations. The government response was to lay the regulations you have referenced which changed the law so that prior determination of LCW is required (as well as being in receipt of a disability benefit).