Help reduce fuel prices!!!!!1

Mikeyorks

shadowstalker wrote: »

Found this on the Suns website:

More than 144,000 angry motorists have joined the "No Fuel Day - 19 November 2007" group on the social networking site, to protest against the recent surge in the price of petrol.

Couldn't you have found something that didn't expire over 3 weeks ago?

C_Ronaldo

olly300 wrote: »

Lorries run on diesel.

ok then, i dont drive a lorry so i wouldnt know,

Andy_L

johnmc wrote: »

Just been sent this;
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FORWARD THIS TO EVERY DRIVER YOU KNOW AND ANYONE ELSE WHO THINKS THAT OVER £1 PER LITRE TAKES THE P***!

only a few thousand signatures, get your name down there and be counted!


http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/reducefuelduty/

At the risk of repeating myself - Which tax would you like increased to make up for the lost revenue?

Andy_L

achtunglady wrote: »

And did you know that some american airbases here are getting their fuel without paying tax? how does that grab you

As do RAF Stations. There's no duty of aircraft fuel. Vehicles not used on the highway (eg farm & construction vehicles) use "red" diesel

Biggles

johnmc wrote: »

Grow crops which produce sugars. Ferment the sugars and distill the result (illegal and dangerous for us to do at home). Can even burn the solids as the fuel for the still. This gives ethanol. And the whole process is carbon neutral. Modern cars will produce a little less power as you need to change the timing a little.

And exactly how will cutting down more rain forests to produce these crops, or growing them in place of the food crops of already starving third world populations, help global warming?

geordie_joe

Andy_L wrote: »

There's no duty of aircraft fuel.

There is, but only if you buy it in a small quantity. Can't remember what it is now, but if you buy a quantity such as an owner of a light plane would by then you pay duty. Buy a large amount as the big airlines do and there's no duty.

Biggles

achtunglady wrote: »

And did you know that some american airbases here are getting their fuel without paying tax? how does that grab you

Some? For the last 60+ years, I don't believe any US airbases have paid UK tax on anything. It's nothing to do with fuel specifically, I believe they just count as being US territory or something similar.

wymondham

Biggles wrote: »

Some? For the last 60+ years, I don't believe any US airbases have paid UK tax on anything. It's nothing to do with fuel specifically, I believe they just count as being US territory or something similar.

this is true - USAF bases are american Territory and excempt from UK taxes etc... funny, as US service personel are told not to tell anyone off the base they dont pay tax. Have a read of this - last page:
http://www.lakenheath.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-070216-018.pdf

geordie_joe

Had a deep conversation today with two colleagues. One is a bit of a tax expert and the other used to own a light plane.

Both agree that there is not duty on aviation fuel if it is bought in small quantities.

Plane owner thinks this is because the government is taxing the little man but afraid to tax the large airline companies. The cut off point for duty is above what a normal light plane owner could buy, or store.

Tax expert says there is duty on all aviation fuel, but there is also a rule that says planes and boats traveling to a foreign destination do not need to pay duty on the fuel they use. This is because the bulk of it would be used outside the UK.

There are only really two ways to determine if the fuel will be used to travel to a foreign destination.

Ask the person buying it if they are going to use it to "go international" and accept their answer.

Or set an amount limit. If they are buying a small quantity assume it will be used for an internal flight only, and charge duty. If they are buying a large quantity assume it is for an international flight and do not charge them duty.

The revenue people chose the second option. But this lets off the big companies who pay for their fuel in bulk and use it for internal flights.

geordie_joe

wymondham wrote: »

this is true - USAF bases are american Territory and excempt from UK taxes etc... funny, as US service personel are told not to tell anyone off the base they dont pay tax. Have a read of this - last page:
http://www.lakenheath.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-070216-018.pdf

Yes but that is part of the big picture, which is basically "Don't upset the locals by bragging about our low prices or complaining about their high prices."

The document is telling the US service personnel not to do things to cause confrontation with the british by telling them they that things are better in the USA, or the British or worse off/not as good as the US.

There's nothing wrong with that, British service personnel get the same advice when they go overseas. Nothing will start a fight with a local quicker than a stranger coming in telling them what is bad about the place.

There's no secret about this, it's published on the web for everyone to see.