Is this really the Gov's Plan? >£400 worse off after moving in with partner

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tomtom256 said:

You clearley do not understand what counts as a member of your household for benefit purposes. Legally only certain people can be part of your benefit household.

Well yeah, I understand what counts as a household member, I was more gearing towards why? I understand exactly how my claim was worked out according to the terms and eligibilty of UC, I wanted to know what people thought about it, not have the T&Cs thrown at me

But as has been mentioned, I'm clearly posting in the wrong place, sorry for taking up your time everyone

Alice_Holt

TheT_RexFromJurassicPark said:

tomtom256 said:

You clearley do not understand what counts as a member of your household for benefit purposes. Legally only certain people can be part of your benefit household.

But as has been mentioned, I'm clearly posting in the wrong place, sorry for taking up your time everyone

     This is a very useful forum should you actually want help to check that you are receiving the correct elements of UC / PIP / etc.

   Otherwise I would agree with you that you are "clearly posting in the wrong place".
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/365935/its-about-helping-people-get-their-entitlement-not-about-benefits-policy#latest


   I wish you well in engaging with your MP about your concerns.
    

Nannytone

As an adult, you are no longer the financial responsibility of your parents.  Partners however, are expected to support each other in all ways.

The country would be bankrupt if all non working peop,e, with working partners, were finanvially supported by the state

poppy12345

TheT_RexFromJurassicPark said:

Nannytone said:

I receive means tested benefit myself, so am not being judgemental.

Followed by:

Nannytone said:

I dont understand why you feel it more acceptable to ask strangers to support you financially, than you do your own partner with whom you sgare a bed and a life

  I paid my tax when I was fit to work, some of that money went to the benefits system - that is the entire purpose of it, you pay tax, support society, if circumstances arise and you need help, you are entitled to the same.

Nope, paying your taxes doesn't entitle anyone to any benefits. Paying the correct NI contributions in the previous 2 tax years would have entitled you to New Style ESA but as you didn't then you weren't entitled to it.

TELLIT01

TheT_RexFromJurassicPark said:

TELLIT01 said: Partners in life are generally expected to be of mutual support to each other.

I agree, but it goes both ways, my partner and I try to split everything 50/50 (obviously this may no longer be possible).
UC deemed I was entitled to more when not living with partner, but if living with them, in my opinion at least, they are passing a financial burden of >£400 on to my partner in exchange for the luxury of living together. When I was living with my parents, what they earned did not have an effect on what I received - but now that I'm living with partner it does, just doesn't add up to me.

A relationship partnership is not expected to be a simple 50/50 agreement.  There will be variations over the years and the burden, as you put it, will move one way and the other.  Your parents are not your partner, and entitlement to Income Related benefits is based on the joint income of a couple i.e. yourself and your partner.  There is no simpler way of putting it. 

Sorry that is it clearly not what you wanted to hear, but it is the reality of your situation.

calcotti

"In sickness and health, for poorer or richer.."

elsien

TheT_RexFromJurassicPark said:

tomtom256 said:

You clearley do not understand what counts as a member of your household for benefit purposes. Legally only certain people can be part of your benefit household.

Well yeah, I understand what counts as a household member, I was more gearing towards why? I understand exactly how my claim was worked out according to the terms and eligibilty of UC, I wanted to know what people thought about it, not have the T&Cs thrown at me

But as has been mentioned, I'm clearly posting in the wrong place, sorry for taking up your time everyone

There used to be a discussion part of the forum which your question would have fitted into, but MSE decided to close it. Any threads that veer into discussions tend to get closed by the powers that be.