Is this really the Gov's Plan? >£400 worse off after moving in with partner

Alice_Holt

TheT_RexFromJurassicPark said:

Nannytone said:

I receive means tested benefit myself, so am not being judgemental.

Followed by:

Nannytone said:

I dont understand why you feel it more acceptable to ask strangers to support you financially, than you do your own partner with whom you sgare a bed and a life

And I did not come on this forum to argue and cry over the situation, as I said in the OP, I wanted peoples opinions on it. You are entitled to yours, but I don't agree with you

      This is not a discussion site designed to share opinions about the benefit system. 
      The purpose of this forum (see forum rules) is to help forumites navigate the benefit system /  understand their correct  entitlements to benefits.

   So (for the third time) are you receiving the carers element (c.£164) in your UC award ? 

     Take your concerns up with your MP. They vote in the benefit legislation.  This is not the appropriate forum. However we can help you check your UC award includes all possible elements.
    What PIP award do you have, please ?   

[Deleted User]

Feel like I've opened a can of worms here, I didn't ask for any advice, nor did I encourage questions on my affordability for my move. I can and will make it work.

I was aiming to start a discussion about how UC makes its decisions. 

TELLIT01 said:

Partners in life are generally expected to be of mutual support to each other.

I would argue that the same was true when I was living with my parents - we were mutually supportive of each other.

In that case, surely my parents income should have affected my entitlement, but it didn't...

The question is, why is it so different when you swap parents for partner?

Nannytone

Exactly. You asked for opinions.
Its a bit churlish to complain when they differ from youe own.
You have, and continue to receive what you are entitled to.

Your complaint isnt about entitlement, but rather the lack of it

Alice_Holt

TheT_RexFromJurassicPark said:

I was aiming to start a discussion about how UC makes its decisions. 

       This is not a discussion site designed to share opinions about the benefit system. 
      The purpose of this forum (see forum rules) is to help forumites navigate the benefit system /  understand their correct  entitlements to benefits.

   So (for the third time) are you receiving the carers element (c.£164) in your UC award ? 

     Take your concerns up with your MP. They vote in the benefit legislation.  This is not the appropriate forum. However we can help you check your UC award includes all possible elements (Couple rate, housing element, carers element, LCWRA element).
    What PIP award do you have, please ?   

tomtom256

TheT_RexFromJurassicPark said:

Feel like I've opened a can of worms here, I didn't ask for any advice, nor did I encourage questions on my affordability for my move. I can and will make it work.

I was aiming to start a discussion about how UC makes its decisions. 

TELLIT01 said:

Partners in life are generally expected to be of mutual support to each other.

I would argue that the same was true when I was living with my parents - we were mutually supportive of each other.

In that case, surely my parents income should have affected my entitlement, but it didn't...

The question is, why is it so different when you swap parents for partner?

You cannot legally be in a relationship with your parents, so their income has no affect on your benefits.

[Deleted User]

tomtom256 said: You cannot legally be in a relationship with your parents, so their income has no affect on your benefits.

Wow, thanks for the insight. Household income is a factor to be considered in means tested benefits is it not, that is what i was getting at

tomtom256

TheT_RexFromJurassicPark said:

Wow, thanks for the insight. Household income is a factor to be considered in means tested benefits is it not, that is what i was getting at

You clearley do not understand what counts as a member of your household for benefit purposes. Legally only certain people can be part of your benefit household.

[Deleted User]

Alice_Holt said:This is not a discussion site designed to share opinions about the benefit system. 

My mistake. 

Alice_Holt

TheT_RexFromJurassicPark said:

tomtom256 said: You cannot legally be in a relationship with your parents, so their income has no affect on your benefits.

Wow, thanks for the insight. Household income is a factor to be considered in means tested benefits is it not, that is what i was getting at

        This is not a discussion site designed to share opinions about the benefit system. 
     
       The purpose of this forum (see forum rules) is to help forumites navigate the benefit system /  understand their correct  entitlements to benefits.

theoretica

You are getting help with the rent portion?  Do you include that in your calculations of the total support you are getting?

You say that you have a mortgage to pay - but what income of yours was taken into account when getting the mortgage offer?  I suspect from both the benefits calculation and the mortgage company's offer that your partner is expected to be the one paying that.

But yes, the logic is that partners will be, at need, a financial support to one another, and two people together can live more cheaply than two people singly.